Largest marijuana smuggler on the West Coast is now an industrial hemp entrepreneur. Bruce Perlowin the founder of Hemp Inc has one of the most colorful cannabis careers. From smuggling to prison to medical marijuana to hemp he has done it all. He joins Larry and Jim to share entertaining stories from his past and his excitement for his future with Hemp. Produced by PodCONX https://podconx.com/guests/bruce-perlowin https://podconx.com/guests/larry-mishkin https://podconx.com/guests/jim-marty https://podconx.com/guests/rob-hunt
Largest marijuana smuggler on the West Coast is now an industrial hemp entrepreneur.
Bruce Perlowin the founder of Hemp Inc has one of the most colorful cannabis careers. From smuggling to prison to medical marijuana to hemp he has done it all. He joins Jim Marty and Larry Mishkin to share entertaining stories from his past and his excitement for his future with Hemp.
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Jim Marty: [00:00:36] Hello, everybody, and welcome to the Deadhead Cannabis show. We got Jim Marty here from a cold and snowy Colorado today, Larry. How are things up in Chicago?
Jim Marty: [00:00:45] Give those to speak with you, as always.
Larry Mishkin: [00:00:48] Well, today is one of those rare days when I can say I'm sitting here in Chicago. Suburbs is lovely, 50 degrees sunshine.
Jim Marty: [00:00:55] Excellent. And we're lucky to have a guest today on the phone. We have Bruce and Bruce suddenly pronounce your last names that don't mess it up.
Jim Marty: [00:01:04] It's Perlow win.
Jim Marty: [00:01:06] Very good. All right. Nice to have you, Mr. Pearl. And you have a very interesting Hemp company. And we're here to talk about Hemp today. If you want to tell us a little bit about your background and how you landed to where you are today and the Hemp business, how far back you want me to go.
Bruce Perlowin: [00:01:25] In the 70s and 80s, that was the largest marijuana smuggler West Coast history and media dubbed the king of pot. There's articles the king of pot. And I used to smuggle boatloads of marijuana from Columbia, mostly a little bit in Thailand underneath the Golden Gate Bridge. Prior to that, I grew up in Florida, which were where I was coming in. When it got too crazy there with the cocaine cowboys, I blew my organization to California where it was still peaceful and it not just knocked it at the ballpark. I did really good eye for being the king of pot. I got to spend nine years in federal prison. It wasn't too bad because I was in coed prisons with men and women actually together walked around holding hands with my girlfriend. And it was the last two killer prisons in America. They don't have that any more. I got five college degrees and a hundred bucks a year. It was sort of cool. You know, we've got great physical condition, got out, start a few businesses. And then I had a friend of mine, Don Steinberg, who was the largest marijuana slugger in U.S. history. We were working together. We did phone cards. We had our national callback company. And then he had a company called Club even that I joined because even that. And he said. And then I did this documentary on CNBC and detonated air. Twenty three million people watched it and instantly became the number one watched show in CNBC history. And they aired it about 350 times over and over again. So we got all these phone calls and all this action. And we said, well, why don't we just change your name from club, even it to medical marijuana anchor Marijuana Inc and get back into the industry. We don't want to touch the Erbe because, you know, a little robust us. You know for sure, you know, we would be targets. So we started Medical Marijuana Inc. Which initials are Amgen? And it became the third. We became the first publicly traded company in the marijuana sector. So we started this whole movement of pot stocks.
Bruce Perlowin: [00:03:20] And I'm really proud of that because you have so many pot, you know, marijuana and Cannabis and Hemp pot stocks. Now they call the pot stocks that that's a force to be reckoned with. I mean, we go to the shows, we advertise. I mean, it's a real big economic boon. OK. So. And somewhere around about 10 years ago, I sold medical marijuana and to Michael Lomis and started helping. And so for 10 years, I've been Hemp Bank and we've got a pretty big footprint around America, largest Hemp processing facility in the Western Hemisphere and North Carolina, which does industrial Hemp. That was before CBD was even a name. You know, anyone knew about it. And then we did do a big giant grow up in Oregon last year or the year before. We're doing an eco village, Calavera Village Kids community in Arizona, which is where our focus now because we teach veterans how to grow Hemp and make money. And of course, now it turned out to be the perfect place in the world because it's out there. You know, 4500 acres in the middle of the desert with sun and fresh air and gardening. And you don't have to worry about, you know, social distancing because we have a thing called the Hemp on which are the growers come and they grow one acre.
Bruce Perlowin: [00:04:36] Well, if you're growing an acre in a mill, the desert for this contest called the Hemp, the time you're 200 feet away from your closest guy. Right. And so there's. So that's that's an exciting thing that we're doing now. And we do pre-roll as we relaunch the King of Hemp pre-roll. And that will be featuring all the old smugglers' of yesteryear, starting with the King of Pop. The next one is Billy Hayes from the Midnight Express Movement Express. Then, you know, all the all the guys, you know, it's smugglers' from 30, 40 years ago.
Bruce Perlowin: [00:05:05] They'll be featured on the King of Hemp line because I want to make him royalties. They're the guys I grew up with. They're the guys I like and they're my peer group. So that's some of what we're doing. And so that's how I made the transition from medical marijuana or marijuana into Hemp.
Larry Mishkin: [00:05:21] Would you would you made that transition adult those 10 years ago? So help me. Like you say, CVD hadn't even been talked about yet, as far as I can recall from 10 years ago. Nobody was even talking about Hemp. What? What was it that you signed up with that? All right. That brought you over to it.
Bruce Perlowin: [00:05:38] Well, the initial thought and it came full circle recently was I looked at Hemp, the twenty five thousand users of Hemp that you could do. I said, you know something, Hemp plastic's and that was my initial brain thought Hemp plastics is just Hemp. Plastics alone is bigger than all of medical marijuana and marijuana put together. And think of you know, everybody knows the disaster that we create on this planet with plastics. If we can make biodegradable Hemp plastic, that would be great. So that was my thinking, you know, twenty five thousand, just one out of that. And then there's Hemp bio-fuel. There's sand clothing, there's Hemp create. You know, there's Hemp everything. So it was more exciting, you know, marijuana. I'm a big proponent that marijuana should be legal across the board. And of course, I was I grew up in the sixties. I smuggled it. But there's more passion about Hemp because Hemp, you could do so many things from building. You can grow your you can grow your house in your backyard, literally.
Bruce Perlowin: [00:06:38] And we'll be building Hemp great houses, our eco village. So that that's why I did it. There is more versatility. I was bored with marijuana because I already did that. Been there once. And this is New Horizons. This is being a pioneer, a visionary. I can do all that with with with all the Hemp products that you can make. Wow. And only have one thing to that. Recently, about 2 months ago, we did supply from our plant in North Carolina a whole somaya of of ground up Hemp and Kanab, the two of them to a company that's making Hemp plastic pellets in South Carolina. And I finally fulfilled that vision of being part of the supply chain of making Hemp plastics. In fact, we just last week sent them apart because they closed down because the plant in North Carolina, they closed all the businesses. So that day, Monday, Monday at 5:00. So Monday, we sent out two semi loads. One went to this commercial product that we make for the oil industry and the other one went to South Carolina to make Hemp pellets. And then the pellets go and they can't. Plastics.
Jim Marty: [00:07:49] Very interesting. Yes. I have a number of questions. Fascinating story. So I guess our staff is we're in the middle of the covariates 19 pandemic. Our clients have been able to keep open most of the retail stores. Adult use of medical across the country have been able to stay open during this pandemic. But talking about your social distancing are cultivators are working very hard keeping their product going so that three or four weeks from now we'll have inventory for the retail and they're doing social distancing, like you mentioned. It's almost a natural and a cultivation. If you have 50 or 100 thousand square feet of cultivation, you're cultivators have no problem. Social distancing, wearing gloves, wearing masks. Very interesting.
Bruce Perlowin: [00:08:38] Yeah, we do that anyways. In our pre-roll pre-roll, if you go on my Facebook page, scroll down. I do a one minute video of everything we're doing and you'll see that everyone wears mask. And then the whole industry, we all wear masks with our gloves. I mean, that's part of being compliant and all of or growing Hemp gross whether there's a corona virus there or not. It's out in the sunshine. And the social distancing thing is is great. We have a we're opening a store in Kingman, Arizona, called the King of the Store. And we're going to have Hemp clothing, everything Hemp not just CBD, but I mean, I'm getting 16 pallets of Hemp clothing delivered to my house in Vegas. And when we finished the store and open it officially, we'll have that there with everything imaginable. Hemp. But we have it. We bought the old Wells Fargo building. We have a drive thru window. So for at least for us, it's not an issue with other dispensaries. They have delivery services and. And I believe that Hemp and marijuana are all Cannabis. That's called Cannabis because it's their coverage, both of them. Is it essential? That is an essential. People are using this for their health. They're using so many health claims and health realities. And I've read a lot of the studies that we are an essential medical situation. They closed down Las Vegas because I'm in Arizona, 90 miles from Vegas, real close.
Bruce Perlowin: [00:10:03] Everything except the liquor stores and the dispensaries because they're considered essential businesses.
Jim Marty: [00:10:10] Well, I know about alcohol, but certainly Cannabis is finding this conversation very interesting with both Larry and I have a lot of experience with CBD oil and cultivation and extraction for CBD products. He's got a great lawyer at his firm who's an expert in Hemp called the name is David Busch. And I worked with him quite a bit as a CPA with. Dozens of Hemp farmers here in Colorado. We have a great environment for growing outdoors because of our elevation, the number of days of sunshine that we get and the fact that Hemp doesn't need a whole lot of water to cultivate.
Bruce Perlowin: [00:10:49] Yeah. Hemp is you have all the crops out there, especially under these conditions. I think Hemp is going to emerge. As you know, it has been emerging as you know, as the new hot crop. But this is going to, I believe, accelerate the a couple of things that's going to definite accelerate our industry. I can see people that he used for medicinal growing. And as you just said, it's out in the field. Nobody's got to get close to each other. But also the use of CBD and CBD will be the hot one this year. You'll see a ton of CBD.
Bruce Perlowin: [00:11:24] And if you're on an opioid and you take CBD, now, I know I'm going to make any medical claims, but this is personal experience was I'm pretty old and 70. Sixty nine, almost 70 and degenerative disease. So I take a new scent. It's called OK. It's a very strong opiate, but it's not least addictive. I took to CBG pills.
Bruce Perlowin: [00:11:43] It works exactly like the center does, except Neung takes fifteen minutes at the time. Instead of 45 minutes it gets off track. We are incredible. We're on the verge of. And that's just to CBD and CBG city ends. When I CBD, we're at the beginning of an entire new wave and I personally expect no medical claims. I expect somebody somewhere in the world to research and find that one of these cannabinoids helps with the Corona virus.
Bruce Perlowin: [00:12:13] I don't I haven't seen it yet. Well, actually, I've seen three studies that allude to that. But more and more studies, we have 150 cannabinoids that nobody really knows what they do in full. I guarantee one of those is going to help this kind of virus big time and someone will discover it and our industry is going to explode. I agree.
Larry Mishkin: [00:12:33] Bruce, it's funny that you say that because I bet everybody around it using that war as a humorous tagline. Although I just my own opinion, I'm convinced that, you know, Cannabis, whether it's to help or marijuana is going to help us fight off the corona virus. Everybody looks at me like I'm from outer space. So, you know, unfortunately, everything to come back, approver to live with. But I'm happy to hear that there's another like minded person out there who comes to the table with a few more credentials, the day of who feels the same way, because you're right, given everything, the Cannabis fight. I find it hard to believe that there's not something in there that could be effective on some level of fighting this virus.
Bruce Perlowin: [00:13:08] Yeah. When you see three, I I saw three studies, you know, that people text me and email me in iambic being everything about the industry. And I read, you know, ninety nine percent of it, there's been three surveys.
Bruce Perlowin: [00:13:22] And I forget what the studies are. All I know and I remember thinking is, OK, if there's three, there's gonna be more, there's gonna be more instability. And then someone who discovers something, meat forgot 150 cannabinoids. What about the 300 herpes? You know, we don't know what they all do. I mean, I think they say put lemon in. You're in the water and drink the lemon all the time, you know, to wash this virus into your stomach or gastric juice or kill it or what's lemony? It's a terrapin. So who knows what's you know what to discover. But we will discover it. And often times you said you joke and make humor the same way I'll joke and goof around about something. And all of a sudden, out of the nuances and the essence of the joke becomes a reality.
Bruce Perlowin: [00:14:09] So I wouldn't your joke is gonna become a reality.
Larry Mishkin: [00:14:13] I predict that nothing nothing would make me happier. You know, and who knows? Maybe we'll see it for that. It is real. They always seem to be two steps ahead of everybody in their medical applications of CBD. But wherever it comes from, yeah, that would be a wonderful thing. And I talk about they'll kill two birds at one time, get rid of the Corona virus and push the Cannabis market through the roof.
Bruce Perlowin: [00:14:35] Well, you know, one of the things I was thinking about, I think just thinking about this in general, you know, you get a cold, right? The cold is a pneumonia. That's when the precursor. So that the death knell to getting coronaviruses, you have to adjust problems beforehand. And I started thinking about Woodstock. Woodstock was a bunch of young kids in the rain and the freeze in a cold rain.
Bruce Perlowin: [00:14:59] And everyone nobody got sick. Ever hear of a flu epidemic or pneumonia from Woodstock because everybody was smoking? So I'm thinking everyone was smoking pot. It had to be an immune booster of some kind or relax or do something because I'd never heard of all the stories of Woodstock. No one got pneumonia. No one got the flu. Nobody got sick. And they were playing in the rain. There worse conditions to catch a cold.
Jim Marty: [00:15:25] I think some people do. So some people get pregnant at Woodstock.
Bruce Perlowin: [00:15:32] Well, that's your stress, really. Well, I was just joking with Kathy, you know, whose is that the thing up? And because Kasey is gorgeous, she looks like an angel on earth. OK. And I saw Facebook because everywhere all hung sequestering. Right. And come home quarantine. So I said, Kathy, just put a picture of yourself and say, who wants to home quarantine with the disability? Cute. Look at guys. So and would it you just reminded me that when you said Woodstock, they had babies. But you know that, you know, back in those days, it's sort of like now, honey, we'll be stuck at home with a good looking guy.
Bruce Perlowin: [00:16:10] Good looking woman, you know? So there is some jokes, some funny parts to this whole thing. And and and it's amazing that we can actually make jokes in such a horrible situation. It is a horrible situation. Nobody wants to downplay how horrible it is. But it's amazing the resiliency or the humor that Americans like. Like the one I liked the most was the millennials said this is the baby boomer buster. You know, like all the baby boomers, because we're old, are going to die. And so the response was, so what are you going to do? Moved from the basement up to the second floor.
Jim Marty: [00:16:44] Well, I think there might be a baby boom nine months from now.
Bruce Perlowin: [00:16:48] Oh, you're right. Let me tell you this, guys.
Larry Mishkin: [00:16:51] My wife is a certified lactation consultant and she deals with mothers and newborns and they monitor these things. And it's not uncommon after a big snowstorm where people are locked up for a week or two weeks. Nine months later, boom. And they're already talking about they're already projecting out the nine months and wondering what it's going to be like for their business. When we reach that point in time. So, yeah, that's there's no doubt about it. Well, I think we'll see that, too. Hey, Bruce, something else I want to ask you really fast. Right before we started, I you and I were briefly talking about some feelings you have about how the stimulus bill that Congress is working on right now can help out the Hemp industry. Give any thoughts on that you can share with us?
Bruce Perlowin: [00:17:29] Absolutely. OK. There's a part of stimulus bill that says that, you know, that there's a big chunk of it. I forgot how many billions, but it was a lot that said that anybody who is growing Hemp can get a loan or any business. And he Hemp is going to. Now we're doing well and we're on top of that completely as a company. I've emailed every one of my top people in my company, about 50 of them, you know, because I want them to be familiar at least with the language, even though they may not be responsible for getting the loans. But the SBA will give up to ten million dollars for a loan and Hemp qualifies. We all qualify from our stores to our farms, Gerri. Medical marijuana doesn't because it's not federally legal, but we can't. We are federal legal. We can get federal crop insurance. We 100 percent qualify for that. And everybody who is this is i-Pad. You need to investigate it because that money is there for you. And and I would love to see our industry get a big chunk of it, because I think our industry is one of the most important industries on the planet right now.
Jim Marty: [00:18:34] Yes. I have some news on that. We have been studying that this week in the news changes every day. We have the same opinion that Cannabis will not qualify for SBA loans because it is federally illegal. But Hemp says it's not illegal is open to these SBA loans. Now, that said, we agree on that. There is a small provision that I believe at this point in time does apply to the Cannabis industry, which is that you can defer the employer portion of the Social Security match on your payroll. And this month of April 2020, we should have new forms. 9:41, that's where you report your payroll and taxes withheld to the federal government that you should the Cannabis industry should qualify to defer the employer portion of Social Security and pay it back in twenty, twenty one or twenty twenty two. Or it could even be forgiven. So that's a little bit of a news update from our point of view here of prejudice.
Bruce Perlowin: [00:19:34] That's a great, great, great update. I love that word. Where does the Cannabis energy go to find that what you just said is or a website or something?
Jim Marty: [00:19:44] Yes, they can visit the Bridge West Web site W WW Bridge, West Space.com. We've got a lot of information on there for our 400 plus Cannabis clients. And just briefly, I mean, Bruce, I've been a CPA in Colorado since nineteen eighty three and I started my own business in 1985 mainly because I don't want to get drug tested and I've developed a very nice CPA firm here in Colorado. I got to see the Grateful Dead. Let's switch over to music here in a minute, but I got to see the Grateful Dead a whole bunch of times that red rocks here in Colorado.
Jim Marty: [00:20:19] Dad, you're so lucky. That place is gorgeous. And the Grateful Dead is awesome or was awesome. It still is awesome with that without Jerry.
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Jim Marty: [00:21:04] What's your experience with the Grateful Dead? You're doing all that smuggling into the Bay Area. You must have been connected with the Grateful Dead family somehow.
Bruce Perlowin: [00:21:11] Not really a little bit. I mean, weren't the original Grateful Dead manager was a guy named E. became a Sikh and his name is such. I don't know what his original name is. So that was one. But I'll play a A. That's right.
Bruce Perlowin: [00:21:24] I was in Colorado and I was with the woman I met in prison who was in prison for being a Russian spy, by the way. And I ended up marrying a Russian spy. OK. No one watch 60 Minutes. Just 60 Minutes. Another little tidbit about my unique group of characters I hang out with. And in fact, I'm with her now in the home quarantine. Anyways, we're out Colorado. There's a dead Grateful Dead concert and we're in a motorhome. And we laid out and we're with this. I don't want to be late. It was a minister. And we laid out a banquet of food on our table. I mean, we had smoked turkey legs. We had chocolates because she's rajas. She likes chocolates and all this food laid out. And a couple of the Grateful Dead, like four or six of them, people that are dead, has came up and said, we're hungry. Can we have some food? And we were in them. I think our excursion, it wasn't a motorhome. And we were there. And we did hear the conversation. And the guy said, no, we don't have any food. And Lonna Svetlana came back. What did they want? They wanted food. And she goes, Oh, my God. She ran after him, grabbed some random pack and said, you take anything you want. I mean, this. And she just fed them like they were like, amazed at all the food they got. And that's a Russian thing, you know, to feed people. So that's been my experience as a grateful that I've never actually got was lucky enough to go to see them. Although Years noted that out of my eco village, Better Village Kids Committee, I have the original Grateful Dead touring. Plus I bought it from a guy named called the Mighty Queen Mary. Good song, buddy. When I bought a log cabin and I own the original grateful bed tour bus and out of the eco village, the village kids can will have an ambulance. We are restoring that. And we're going to put that over by the kids section so the kids can go and walk in and tour it.
Larry Mishkin: [00:23:23] Oh, God, that's awesome.
Bruce Perlowin: [00:23:25] So, so so if you want to come see the original group of veteran players and be in a safe haven for, you know, in the middle of like we have 500 acres and we have about four thousand around the mountain and another 4000 that we can buy right next door. And you're in thousands of acres of nothing but sunshine and fresh air with the original Grateful Dead tour bus. They are on location now.
Bruce Perlowin: [00:23:47] We're in Arizona, about 20 miles north of Kingman. If you were if you were driving from Las Vegas, you would go over the dam and not go south. So it's. But Kingman, Kingman, Arizona, is where, 20, 25 miles. And we're literally in the middle of the desert. I've got seven geodesic domes up there now. That's the holistic healing and learning center portion for the veterans. And you see it. We have light streaming video out there. We have Wi-Fi out there. You go to Hemp being hit locations to look for Arizona and click on there and you'll see the camera's panning and tilting all around the eco village. You won't see the Grateful Dead just yet, but I guarantee you you will, because we're we're going to have a total of 64 cameras up there. Right now we've got I don't know how many. You know, I just look at the one, the pants until some shows that don't. I think that's a cool shot, you know?
Jim Marty: [00:24:39] Oh, very good. Yes, I was. So to those you out there sometime, it sounds very interesting. You know, we're doing, as I said, a lot of work with CBD and Hemp here in Colorado. We're working on sending extractive CBD oil. That's what we call t free, THC free. And we're working on a program to ship that to the United Kingdom and London.
Bruce Perlowin: [00:24:59] Well, you know, that's that's a product I'd love to carry in the King of Hemp store. We're going to be we're growing CBD out there now. I mean, if you go again, if you go to my Facebook page, you can scroll down, you'll see the domes and we've got all the stars. We can't really plant outside until really round 420. You know, that's still that number still sticks with, you know, with the first day of the planting season. That's pretty pretty close to here. And we're going to be growing mostly CBD this year, although right now we have. Now we do have both we have CBD and CBG. And I love to have you come visit because, you know, it's very unique. This is a very unique place. It's different. There's nothing like it in America that I'm aware of. I mean, how many people have seven geodesic dome is built on the flower of life pattern. Right. We did all funk's way out there. We're going to have two ponds, you know, with millions of gallons of water. That's if it gets too hot. You could jump in there and I'm going to put sun is out there because I hear although that 33 degrees will kill the virus or just. Case, you know, the only way to get to three degrees of sonna down, you know, hot tubs don't get that hot. So we'll have sun is out there and we'll be there. Yeah, and it's a healing center. We can stuff that low light lasers from Russia, right. Machines, things that people barely heard about.
Larry Mishkin: [00:26:20] Wow. Well, Bruce, I have to say that this has been fascinating. And then what I like about this is, especially in what you're doing, is is the foresight you're showing in the, you know, jumping ahead of the curve. And I know from our talk at the beginning that you have some familiarity with the Hoban law. group. But, you know, Bob Hope has been, you know, one of the leaders for the last couple of years and not just focusing on Hemp, but focusing like you talk about, on all the commercial and corporate opportunities that are available for all of the myriad of products that can be taken out of the Hemp plant. And we're just beginning to learn with some knowledge of the bar. And he paints a similar picture that you do that that what we're going to see very soon is an industry where Hemp really overshadows marijuana, not that marijuana still will be funded, necessary and grief for the people who like it, but it doesn't have all of the availabilities that have passed. And so, you know, with the Hoban law. group has been pushing it very hard. Jim mentioned David Busch, who's been very key in all of that. You're Ralph Patrick Goggin. Matthew Smith. We have some really, really tough light Hemp attorneys. And what I like is, you know, it's one thing for a bunch of lawyers to sit around and start talking about what they think is going to happen. It's another thing we get to talk to somebody who's actually out there in the field and they're agreeing with us that, you know, that that makes us feel better. And we're very excited to hear about it. And what you're doing is certainly fascinating stuff.
Bruce Perlowin: [00:27:42] Yeah, well, without a doubt, Bob Hoban law. is one of the smartest guys in the industry, and all the lawyers around him are incredibly brilliant. You know, I mean, I just have a ton of admiration for that law firm.
Jim Marty: [00:27:55] I agree with that. I worked with them many times. You know, I signed my first Cannabis tax return 11 years ago in 2009. And one of the first people I met is I started working with the Cannabis industry was Bob Hoban law..
Bruce Perlowin: [00:28:08] Yeah, yeah. My son, he works and he talks of my son about my son, which is nice at two generations in the same industry. And Aubrey talks with Bob a lot, you know. You know, unfortunately, I can't hire Bob because he was representing somebody that we were going to sue and said he was his attorney. So it was a conflict of interests, but they didn't do that. That does not diminish my admiration and for him and his whole company. And he and any talks of my good friends?
Jim Marty: [00:28:37] Well, I think we're coming towards the end of our time slot. So as we come to the end of our we just about 30 minutes or so on these podcasts. Does anybody have anything else I want to add before we go?
Larry Mishkin: [00:28:49] No, I think that this has all been great. Bruce, I love which you have to say about it. We'll talk with our producer, Dan the after the show. But, you know, if you can send us links and things like that, we'll posted for all of our listeners to be able to go and check out and learn more about who you are and what you're doing. And, you know, for God's sakes, you have an interesting enough path that that out of four people. And just to read about that. So, you know, any way we can help you guys, we're always happy to do.
Bruce Perlowin: [00:29:13] And you can't cash. You can send you all the links because there's so many Web sites of so many different things that we're doing, you know, like doing a movie on my life. And so that's a Web site. You know, that's the old stuff. The new stuff, you know, about where we built the plant in North Carolina, the Veterans Village Kids community to that. It's a store. She can send you all those different links because there's quite a few of unbreak.
Larry Mishkin: [00:29:38] Excellent. Very good. We'll reach out there, but otherwise. Thank you so much for taking the time to talk with us today. This has been enlightening. An interesting.
Jim Marty: [00:29:46] Thank you so much. And hopefully we'll be able to hook up with me through the Bridge West Web. But to talk to you more so. OK, everybody, this is Jim Marty now signing over and out for the Deadhead Cannabis show.
Larry Mishkin: [00:29:59] Thank you all for listening today.
Larry Mishkin: [00:30:00] Thank you to our guests, Bruce and his wonderful stories about Hemp and what he's doing. Jim, it's always a pleasure to talk to you. And everyone stay healthy and we'll talk to you next time. Thank you, guys.
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