Deadhead Cannabis Show

Henry Baskerville | Fortis Law Partners | Phish Stories

Episode Summary

Cannabis law and the legal issues business deal with in the American Cannabis industry. Lawyer Henry Baskerville from Fortis Law Partners talks with Jim and Larry about representing businesses in the legalized cannabis industry. He has many clients in the CBD, THC, and Hemp industry. In addition to his successful practice, Henry is a long time Phish fan and talks about his experiences seeing Phish live, and meeting Trey Anastasio and Jon Fishman. Produced by PodCONX

Episode Notes

Cannabis law and the legal issues business deal with in the American Cannabis industry. 

 Lawyer Henry Baskerville from Fortis Law Partners talks with Jim Marty and Larry Mishkin  about representing businesses in the legalized cannabis industry.  He has many clients in the CBD, THC, and Hemp industry.   In addition to his successful practice, Henry is a long time Phish fan and talks about his experiences seeing Phish live, and meeting Trey Anastasio and Jon Fishman. 

Produced by PodCONX



Episode Transcription



Jim Marty: [00:00:36] Hello, everybody, and welcome to the Deadhead Cannabis show. This is Jim Marty from sunny and warm Longmont, Colorado, where it's a beautiful day in late May.


Jim Marty: [00:00:46] I've got my partner in crime, Larry Mishkin, up in Chicago. How you doing, Larry?


Larry Mishkin: [00:00:51] I'm doing great. Always nice to hear from you. And I am pleased to be able to say that we also have a beautiful, sunny, bright day here in Chicago. Although the outlook for the entire weekend is not necessarily Swarbrick, we're sure enjoying today.


Jim Marty: [00:01:04] Well, we are fortunate to have a guest today, a wonderful attorney, Henry Baskerville. He'll be joining us in just a minute. But before we do, I need to ask Larry if he if he did his homework assignment because I did mine. I listen to the Ithica May of 77 show, and it is every bit as wonderful as Larry mentioned last week. In fact, I just listened to the Scarlet Begonias fire on the mountain sequence just before we came on the air.


Jim Marty: [00:01:35] And yes, Larry, if he would if he could listen to his homework, the fish coast hiatus, I believe, August 2009 at Red Rocks, Colorado, characters zero were fairly Kreutzmann of the Grateful Dead set in with fisherman.


Jim Marty: [00:01:54] Larry, do you get your homework done?


Larry Mishkin: [00:01:56] No, Jim. I've read what he had to say this in about 35 years, but so I get my homework. So I apologize that I let you down on this one. But I can assure you, since I don't want to have to go through this again, that by this time next week I will be more than ready to talk to you about it.


Jim Marty: [00:02:11] Very good. Well, we'll give you a rain check on that and pick it up on our next show. In the meantime, I'd like to turn our attention to our guests today, attorney Henry Baskerville from Denver, Colorado. How are you doing, Henry?


Henry Baskerville: [00:02:24] I'm doing well. Thanks for having me. That'd be here.


Jim Marty: [00:02:27] Very good. Glad to have you. Can you tell us a little bit about your law practice and your relation to Cannabis and more recently, Hemp and CBD?


Henry Baskerville: [00:02:38] Sure. So I work. I'm one of four owners of a small boutique law firm in Denver, Colorado, called Court of Law Partners. And we do a lot of work in the cannabis industry.


Henry Baskerville: [00:02:52] Our firm is set up to really our bread and butter is working with small and emerging companies, market companies. And in that we do a lot of work with Cannabis companies that not exclusively, but a good chunk of our fact that is with Cannabis companies.


Henry Baskerville: [00:03:08] And we have sort of three different primary practice area groups. We have a corporate group. We have an appointment group and we have a litigation. I run the litigation group. I'm also the head of Cannabis practice. And those are the three areas that we think can release are needed to help small businesses. The corporate group can help them form the companies and get agreements. The employment can help hiring and firing employees. And my group that is needed helps with depen matters or litigation if necessary.


Henry Baskerville: [00:03:43] And I also serve as general counsel. It's probably more than a dozen Cannabis companies, more on the Hemp side these days. And then on the marijuana side, by happenstance, really more than by design.


Henry Baskerville: [00:04:00] I'm also a big fan of CBD. I take it and I write on a daily basis.


Henry Baskerville: [00:04:07] And then also known to enjoy the marijuana here and as well.


Jim Marty: [00:04:11] Very interesting about your practice. I also do a lot of expert witness and testimony in disputes in the cannabis industry, whether it's in state court. I have testified in federal tax fraud, mediation and arbitration. Let's turn it over to you and Larry as attorneys on why you think the cannabis industry is so litigious. My point would be, you know, it's a fairly young industry. Participants many times are young and many times they came from the black market and are not used to having written contracts. But I'll let Henry you take it. And then, Larry, you turn into because this is a really hot topic right now, I'm sure.


Henry Baskerville: [00:04:53] So I would certainly dovetail with with what you said. I think that some of it definitely has to do with people in the industry being. Unfamiliar with written contracts or more more familiar with doing business without written contracts. Whether that's because they're just, you know, young and new to the business area or whether that's because they were previously part of the black market where contracts aren't typically used. Who knows? It depends on the person. But I think that's a big part of it. I think that it's also, you know, I've seen I don't like to point fingers or anything, but I've seen some sort of mediocre lawyering where people just aren't crossing their T's and dotting their eyes for Cannabis clients. I don't know if it's just because they're trying to go quickly or keep costs down. So there's some of that. And, you know, I think it's also that there's there's this perception that there's just so much so much money to be made in the Cannabis industry, which is not as we know it. True that, you know, there certainly is money to be made. But it's it's not just a windfall of making money hand over fist that people believe it to be. And so they they come in with these lofty ideas that they're going to put in a few thousand dollars and come out a multimillionaire. And when that doesn't happen, they start pointing fingers at each other. So I think that has something to do with it. And then, of course, the price fluctuates a lot, which always leads to disagreements about, you know, contracts and who should have made profit and so forth. So I think that has a lot to do with it as well.


Larry Mishkin: [00:06:36] This this research was very. And the truth of the matter is, my first response was going to be. I haven't really seen an uptick in litigation on the Cannabis side. My litigation practice still is primarily limited to none Cannabis matters. And I'm going to say I think that's probably because our industry is so new that people really haven't had a whole lot of time even to have disputes yet. You know, everything is just starting to come online. I do have one person who contacted me because they want to send they send a demand letter to a group that applied for a dispensary and then they claim that they're entitled to some ownership of it. We'll take a look at it and see. But it hasn't really been a whole lot. And I think the other part of it is that, you know, at least in Illinois, given the the newness of the market and where people are other than the well established and the Aso's, what I learned, Jim, and, you know, back in thousand, eight, nine and ten is that litigation to some degree is a privilege. It's very expensive. And a lot of people who go through life just don't have the money for the time and ability to be able to litigate. And as the market turns more and more people up for the downside, more and more people are willing to walk away from disputes and spend a lot of money on their lawyers in this industry.


Larry Mishkin: [00:07:56] I think that there's some of that right. We have all these people who were all due out because they're all out trying to hustle as much money as they can get to to get their business operation up and running. And if there's a mistake on a contract or whatever, a lot of times I think from their perspective, it's just easier to sit down and try and make it right than to spend all that money on litigation. All part of that, I'd like to say to you know, that that's insurance in the Cannabis industry, but obviously know your experiences and deaneries, experiences and others experiences. Tell us that, you know, it's some flight, Ziya. The honeymoon effect wears off and it's just a regular business and you've got people going at it. But in terms of what I've seen from my clients, I would also very much agree with what Henry said. The number one, probably the biggest issue I have is people coming in who have no idea how to run a business. They may have tons of experience with marijuana, but they've never run a business before. They don't know what an operating agreement is. They don't know what an LLC is.


Larry Mishkin: [00:08:51] They don't know anything at all of a sudden what they're going to be in charge of running a company that if a successful CEO will have a value, will get over a couple of million dollars. That's not a good fit. Similarly, I think people come in with extremely unrealistic expectations and we do our best to try to tamp those down. The first couple of times we talk to people, you know, by letting them know, yes, there's money to be made, but there's businesses that fail in this industry, just like any others who want to go check out the statistics online. You can find out how many of them do fail. And that's just the way it is. Not everybody who invests in kids can walk away a millionaire. And I think that with every success rate that sometimes people like, well, that must be your fault. Everybody told me I was going to be a millionaire. So, you know, as a litigator, I have to say from a business perspective, I'm looking forward to an opportunity to get involved in those types of cases. This is a big fan of the Cannabis industry. I'm hoping that people can find a way to be able to resolve their disputes without wasting a lot of time and money on lawyers. But we'll see what happens.


Jim Marty: [00:09:52] Yes. Henry, any comment on this before we move on to another subject?


Henry Baskerville: [00:09:57] One comment I would make is that I have to say that I've seen a fair amount more litigation and bad practices in K behavior in the Hemp industry. And I don't say that these threats to Hemp industry. I said I do a lot of work and I'm a big fan of CVT and I take it on a daily basis personally and I'm not entirely sure why that is. I have a I have a theory. I think part of the theory is that a lot of people want to get into the Cannabis industry, whether it's an entity or CVT or. And the problem that that legalize marijuana is such a heavily regulated industry in every state. In Colorado, it included you have to go through detailed background check if you've got a felony conviction, typically a felony drug conviction, you disbarred from the industry. And so as a result of that. Fairly heavily regulation on the marijuana side. People who want to get into the cannabis industry but maybe have a less than perfect background are all funneled into the Hemp side, which I think lead to a higher percentage of, you know, unsavory characters behaving poorly. And so I just get clients who know they are trying to do a deal. And, of course, they're going to get a deal on text message and and sending hundreds of thousands of dollars to a broker via a deal that they've reached on a text message. And the guy just disappears with the money or, you know, people just stealing other people's company. It's just crazy stuff. And I think some of that just has to do with, like we said before, as confiscated business people, coupled with with people who are used to behaving and then practicing and the black market and trying to bring those where the way they used to do it to what's now a legal industry. And so I think as more and more states start to regulate Hemp and implement to implement the 2018 Pardoe and as further regulation comes in, I think that hopefully we're going to see some of that shadiness leave the industry.


Jim Marty: [00:12:06] Yes, I agree with that. I'm doing more and more work here in the Colorado Hemp industry myself, extractors, retailers, online sales and Hemp farmers. And right now, the Hemp farmers are very, very unhappy. They don't even know if they want to plant a crop in 2010 because so many of them are still sitting on their 20-20 harvested biomass. And, you know, there are hundreds of thousands of dollars into the Hemp biomass. A year ago, that biomass was selling for 30 to 40 dollars a pound. This year, some farmers are lucky to even get offered a dollar. Henry, what's your opinion on what's going on with the hemp industry here in Colorado? Sen.


Henry Baskerville: [00:12:50] Yeah, I. I would echo this those exact same sentiments. My I've got clients who I was just having a conversation today with a farmer who said we put our seeds in the ground today, last year, and now we're debating whether we should do it again. And they've ultimately decided that they're going to, but they're still sitting on thousands of pounds of biomass and smokeable Hemp that they haven't been able to sell. And it's just a problem that, you know, a couple of years ago, there was never enough biomass for the extractors.


Henry Baskerville: [00:13:23] And as a result of that sort of glot and biomass, the price of CVT, you could just it was inaccurate. It was incredible how much it would go up and down. It would, you know, after the harvest and there was biomass available, CBD would be fairly cheap, you know, a couple months later when nothing nobody had any biomass in the extractors spending to get their machines working. CVT with extremely expensive. And so people came and fill that void and grew a lot of Hemp that I think they had. Many people had a pretty good crop last year. And then meanwhile, while they were drawing this crop all through last summer and the fall and really up until now, the price of CTD various extracts has just completely fallen to the floor and it's, you know, lost 80 percent of its value. And so people have, like you said, struggled to sell their products. You know, I was talking to a guy today who said that their product is they they do a lot of organic growing. And they were.


Henry Baskerville: [00:14:27] Able to get about 60 bucks a pound for bomb last year and about six to seven hundred dollars a pound for smokeable Hemp. Now, you know, they're looking at all of that same product for 10 dollars a pound for biomass and maybe a hundred for smokeable Hemp when they got 700 last year. And so it's a big question mark because they put a lot of time effort in this stuff and they got thousands of pounds and people's hair growing and two thousand twenty crop becomes available for sale next fall. Anything left over from 2019 is going to be effectively us.


Jim Marty: [00:15:04] Yes. And harvested Hemp biomass, as I've learned in a very unstable state, go moldy on, you get mildew. So the farmer is almost forced to know he has two choices to destroy it or put another, you know, three, four or five hundred thousand dollars into getting his crop extracted. So at least that it's in a more stable format as CBD oil. My concern for my farmer clients is, hey, you know, Geia, Joe Farmer, if you do spend all that money to the extractor, you know, are you going to be able to sell it? Will that be enough? Take on the other end? I really hammer the extractors and then my clients, but I'll say, you know, where are you at getting the offtake? Why aren't you getting contracts in with deposits so that you can lighten the burden on the farmer, on the extraction? You know, the farmer will wait until the end product of the CBD or CBG oil sells the. Why is it always up to the farmer to come up with all the money to grow, all the money to harvest. And now all the money to extract. So it's a difficult situation. I'm trying to work through with my clients. I think actually this week we did manage to move about one hundred thousand pounds of good quality Hemp biomass. But again, the best deal we could get from Extractor was the farmer has to come up with three hundred thousand dollars of cash to get it extracted.


Jim Marty: [00:16:39] So it's a tough situation. It'll work itself out. One of my many opinions was CBD, CBG, all the all the cannabinoids is a lot of times. And you talk about unscrupulous characters. A lot of times the end product is no good. So when you the customer goes to the CBD store, buys online CBD products and these buildings is 30, 40, 50 dollars on some products. And there's no effect and there's no effect, because by the time the processor and the manufacturer and the packager are done, there is very little CBD, live CBD in that end product. So the customer buys it. Nothing happens. Well, you not only just lost the customer of CBD for life, you lost all his friends and family that he knows, too. So the answer to that, in my opinion, is these end user consumers, CBD products have to really up their game and the amount of CBD and CBG that's contained in those products. Because Hemp you said you'd use CBD. I do, too. I've got some wonderful, wonderful CBD products that are very strong for sleep. This is a deep sleep with wild dreams. So anyway, I've been doing a lot of the talking. I'll let Henry and Larry take over for a few minutes.


Henry Baskerville: [00:18:04] Yeah. So this is. I think this is Henry again, so I would again echo the same sentiment in another problem, that part of the problem that my clients are seeing is just the testing facilities just are can vary so greatly. My clients say that, you know, they get tests.


Henry Baskerville: [00:18:27] They get certificates of authenticity done. And from one lab to another, they're seeing like 20 percent variations in CBD content. Other content of minor cannabinoids, it's THC content. Some places are finding heavy metals, some aren't. And so it's really hard to tell. And it's hard to do business when you have a product. You get it tested. UCLA says one thing. You send it to a customer and they they get a seat away that says something different. And so it's just a I don't know if it's because some of these labs are not properly cleaning their equipment between I don't know if they're incompetent. They're using different ways of doing it. You know, the 2018 farm, though, had some discussion about, you know, uniform testing. But I think that's one of the things that the that the industry really needs. So that at least people can know that we're all talking about the same thing. And we're by you know, when we're agreeing to purchase a product, we know what's actually in it.


Henry Baskerville: [00:19:32] Because like you said, that's a huge problem. And.


Larry Mishkin: [00:19:36] And one that needs to be solved quickly, I think, take it a step further and say it's not just so much that we want the consumers to know what's in it. I'd like the police to know what's in it. I don't know about you, but we've had more than one occasion with clients who have had CBD packages confiscated in conversations with the police on that point, sometimes just like in the Twilight Zone. Well, unflatteringly you consider and tell me it's not illegal. We tested it and we found THC. How much, officer? Well, you know, we found THC. That makes it illegal. No, it doesn't. But I have to send their general counsel, literally the general counsel of the police department here, the Sahgal, with all the sections underlined and accompany Illinois legislation. And they said, well, OK, but, you know, you understand this may happen again because we can't tell what it is. So, you know, this road doesn't probable cause, so you have to know.


Henry Baskerville: [00:20:31] You're absolutely right, Larry. I mean, that's a huge problem because, you know, it's one thing if somebody decides that they're going to engage in illegal practices, in the end, you're going to you know, you decide you're gonna rob a bank. You measure it.


Henry Baskerville: [00:20:44] You understand what the potential consequences are. And you're taking that risk. OK. But on the other hand, if you're trying to conduct legal business and sell a product that legal under both state and federal law, and you're shipping it in a legal way. And yet if your product gets confiscated and potentially you're getting charged with crimes when you're trying to abide by the law. Well, that's a problem because the law should be something where, you know, if I step over here, I'm breaking the law and I'm going to take that chance. But if I stay over here, I'm good. And so companies need to be able to understand that where the line is.


Henry Baskerville: [00:21:20] And if the line is not clear because, hey, the cops don't know what they're talking about, or B, as we've seen in some of these recent cases, sometimes people are using different forms of testing. And as we know, you know, when when you test in a different way and you heat up the product that THC A can be converted to T8 Delta nine THC, which changes the content and different places are doing different things.


Henry Baskerville: [00:21:45] Well, then that's a big problem when you have companies who are trying to do a real business and abide by the law and yet are still getting ensnarled by the police.


Larry Mishkin: [00:21:53] Yes. Yes. It's it's it's it's just it's true on every level. And it's it's speaking to the need to have federal standards and federal education. Federal employees need to know and understand the one, though. What's different about the two people as customers have to know this, right. The people with the IRS after those people, you know, who run the banking system gastineau homeless. And there's just hasn't been a lot of education of the people that need to be educated. And, you know, you're right. That's very disconcerting. It's one thing if you knowingly break the law, but, well, we can tell somebody, hey, look, this is a legal product. You're good to go. All of a sudden, their choice is pulled over in Idaho. You know, there's no good answers except that, you know, well, in Idaho, apparently they followed their own laws. But it is very frustrating. And it is it is it is a potential barrier for some people to getting into business just because there's this concern that anything that's Cannabis without bothering to understand the distinctions, they just see that as a strike against them. And what bothers me about that is that I think there's lots of good people out there who could get into this industry. We're going to sit here and talk about a shortage of brokers and producers. And you're absolutely right. I've got butterflies calling me nonstop. That's it. If I give them the names or brokers or producers, I could retire tomorrow. They can lose money. They pay anything for that information. They don't exist. We just have find people who have the capacity to take this on. And I think that, you know, part of the problem is, is that people are reluctant to spend the money to build a processing facility just the next week. Sure. Everybody's okay with it.


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Jim Marty: [00:24:07] Well, I have a story that is the exact opposite of a story Larry just told, that we have smokeable Hemp here in Colorado in abundance and people are taking that smokeable Hemp to states that don't have adult use cannabis and selling it as many as marijuana. So there's another amusing twist to what's going on here.


Henry Baskerville: [00:24:31] I shouldn't laugh, but that's like, you know, in high school when kids are selling bags of oregano.


Jim Marty: [00:24:37] So anyway, let's wrap it up and talk a few minutes about music, because Henry has a very interesting background. It was he told us before the show. He was in high school and Jerry Garcia died. So he missed a lot of the Grateful Dead. But he's a big fish fan. And Larry and I are huge fish fans as well as our children are sons. Really love fish. My son, Jack, as I mentioned before, is in a fish tribute band playing keyboards. Henry, go ahead and tell us some of your favorite stories of being a fisherman.


Henry Baskerville: [00:25:14] Well, that's right. So I got I went to school in Boston and really got into session college and then toured and saw a number of shows after college. And unfortunately, then kind of right about leaving college, they took their first hiatus. And then, you know, between that and the 2000s, I went and saw as many shows as I possibly could throughout the country and a bunch of Vegas. And then thankfully, they're back. And a couple of the highlights of my life. I remember we went and sought a trade tour in 2001. I guess after I graduated from college and all up to the West Coast and then came and saw a free show, I think three shows at Red Rocks, two or three. And I was I went to the to pick up a friend who would fly in to see the Red Rock shows and was walking across the meet the center area of CIA near the baggage claim to meet my friend. And I was just me. And I looked across and about 20 feet from me walking kind of in the same direction with me, with Trey and I went over. I said, hey, you know, I try I don't want to bother you. I know you're probably here picking up some friends or family, but I just wanted to say I saw all the shows on the West Coast and I got to really tell it is really such a great time.


Henry Baskerville: [00:26:37] And he said, Oh, thank you very much. And he said, But, you know, I said, Henry. And we chatted for about 20 seconds. I thought I was just so great. And so then I went and I met my friend at Baggage Claim. I said, you're not gonna believe this. I just met Trey. And he was like, no, wait, you're lying. So then we're walking out after my friend gets the bag and we see Trey again, he's like, Hey, Henry, how you doing? I was like, there you see? There you go. And so he remarked. I mean, it was not very nice to try to remember my name. It was only probably 15 minutes. But still, it made me look pretty cool in front of my friend. And then subsequently, I've got a friend who is good friends, a great dad, and sits on the tray that sits on the board of a foundation that my friend created. My friend is a world renowned for his doctor for no endocrine cancer, which is unfortunately the type of cancer that trade sister died from. And so trait's family is very involved in my friend's foundation. And I said it. That's just on the board. So in 2018, my friend was nice enough to ask me.


Henry Baskerville: [00:27:39] They go backstage and it just so happened that trade dad was there at that section. So we hung out with trade dad the whole night. And of course, got to meet Trey and and Paige and my can. And I sat and we went in and sat where they eat before the show. And Jon was in there holding court. And I sat down and I said, you know, I don't mind if I don't want to interrupt dinner. He said, Now, come on, I'll sit with you. And I sat and talked with fishermen for like 30 minutes before the show. Normally before the show, I get kind of nervous cause I had to get to my spot and I just get in and God of anticipation before the show, preshow jitters out. Like, I guess I really need to do that now. So I kind of miss the show. The drivers right here. But Jon just couldn't have been you know, the other guys were busy. And I got a picture with Trey and so forth and didn't talk much. I sat there and chatted with Jon about politics and all other sorts of stuff for like half an hour. He just could have been a nicer guy. It was really a fun time. And then, of course, the show was great.


Larry Mishkin: [00:28:35] I have to say, I love those kind of stories. When I was first starting to see the dead in the early 1980s, Jerry Garcia band came and they played in Grand City, Illinois, which was just right on the other side of the river from St. Louis. That's the best of areas certainly to go to. Who's playing in this tiny little club? And a whole group of us stopped the car. We drove over there and I was totally dead. I talked to these guys and to come to see Jerry Garcia with me. And we walked in and we ran right up to the front. We had an amazing show, great nights. And when we were done, we were walking out of one of my buddies was always a little more aggressive than the others. And we saw I truly was pig vs. probably. Let's go knock on the door to see if we can hang out with him. It's like, you know, I just don't know what to do that. You know, it's it's not natural. We weren't invited in. And you know what? If he turns out to be an asshole. What's that called? A two fer. So I'm always happy to hear when people get to meet, you know, the people who they really admire Excite after that. They're nice people.


Henry Baskerville: [00:29:29] Yeah, it was it was a really wonderful time. And I I guess I couldn't it couldn't even tell you on that night. Don was just so nice and so courteous at the time. Those who like all the guys. But I've got to go.


Jim Marty: [00:29:41] And that's been my experience. I've been for enough to meet many rock and rollers. I've got to interview one time. John Doe has hung out with Dave schools. My son Matt. Got to meet Trey when he was 15 years old. And Trey couldn't have been nicer, really, just like us musicians. They want to hang out. They want to talk. They want to have a cold beer and just relax and have fun. And then they get on stage and do their job.


Jim Marty: [00:30:06] So anyway, just to follow up on that, you remember last summer when they played at Alpine Valley and they did that whole thing with the guy who got engaged to his girlfriend and they did three plays, Here Comes the Bride. And it's loads of the backstory. And that was that I was part of my son's posse. And they he and his girlfriend didn't miss the first day because they were a wedding in Milwaukee and they saw this in the bar after their performances outside Valley that night. They sat they chatted with him for a while and Trey said he does things for a while. You're gonna get engaged, Bitrate. He says, Trey, if you play contact tomorrow night, I'm going to propose to my girlfriend. They went to the show and, you know, my my my son and his buddies, everybody all knew about it. And they were all ready to see what happened. And sure enough, he came out and he said, everybody plays for buddies like you. They played contact. And I thought, that's just amazing that, you know, the guy would do that. You know, he's not just saying hello to somebody who's actually listening. And finally, it looks like he was having a great time doing it. Yeah. How great.


Jim Marty: [00:31:07] Great, great stories, guys, and very informative. Very informative. Deadhead Cannabis show. I see. We're coming to the end of our time front. Larry or Henry. Do you have any final words of wisdom?


Larry Mishkin: [00:31:22] Well, let me just say this really fast. Number one, thank you, Jim. You're you're a trained teacher that you gave me your break today when I hadn't done my homework. But I will be ready to go next time around on the Sunday church, two zero. Number two, I'm all ready to talk about part time next time as well. And we'll look forward to that. And can we just say thank you so much for coming on our show and we're going to ask you before you leave, we ask all of our guests, and that is, please tell our listeners how they can get a hold of you. Oh, sure.


Henry Baskerville: [00:31:54] Well, thank you guys so much for having me.


Henry Baskerville: [00:31:56] I will say I didn't know it was with part of the homework, but I've listened to that for now. Seven show more times than I can even count disqualifiers. The main thing I love the show is that on vocals. And so that was one of my all time favorites.


Henry Baskerville: [00:32:16] But again, thanks so much for having me. This is really a lot of fun I put together by my love of music and my love to be able to actually work in the Cannabis industry, which, you know, twenty years ago, I would have never thought that I'd be actually doing that in a legal way.


Henry Baskerville: [00:32:32] So if anybody wants to get a hold of me, my Fortis law partners, you can find us at IWW that four to bar partners dot com. You can also e-mail me at Henry @ fortis at that law. Again, thanks so much for having me. This is really fun. And you ever want me to come back and be more than happy.


Larry Mishkin: [00:32:55] Wonderful. All right. We'll need to thank you. Say this for with us to anybody who hears Barton Hall, 1977 goes through to the Scarlet Fire. They could run with us any time they want.


Jim Marty: [00:33:09] Very good. Where you want to sign us out?


Larry Mishkin: [00:33:14] I will. Again, great show today. Thanks for just Baskervilles. Thanks to my co-host and partner in crime Jim Marty. And thank you to all of you for listening. Keep enjoying the Grateful Dead.


Larry Mishkin: [00:33:27] Keep enjoying Cannabis. Stay stay safe and stay healthy. Thank you.


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