Celebrating his Musical Legacy and Enduring Impact Larry Mishkin discusses the annual days between August 1st and August 9th, celebrating the life of Jerry Garcia, who was born on August 1st and died on August 9th. They reminisce about Jerry's musical contributions and his special place in the Grateful Dead. They also share favorite Jerry Garcia tunes and live performances while praising his resilience, greatness, and lasting impact on the music industry. The summary highlights the deep admiration and love for Jerry Garcia and his enduring legacy. Produced by PodConx
Celebrating his Musical Legacy and Enduring Impact
Larry Mishkin discusses the annual days between August 1st and August 9th, celebrating the life of Jerry Garcia, who was born on August 1st and died on August 9th. They reminisce about Jerry's musical contributions and his special place in the Grateful Dead. They also share favorite Jerry Garcia tunes and live performances while praising his resilience, greatness, and lasting impact on the music industry. The summary highlights the deep admiration and love for Jerry Garcia and his enduring legacy.
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A “Days Between” Episode for the Days Between Aug. 1 (Jerry’s birth) and Aug 9 (Jerry’s Deadth)
Some of my favorite “Jerry Moments” with the Dead
INTRO: Days Between
From: July 24, 1994
Soldier Field, Chicago
Track No. 17
4:35 – 6:05
SHOW #1: Visions of Johanna
From: March 18, 1995
Spectrum, Philadelphia
Grateful Dead Live at The Spectrum on 1995-03-18 : Free Borrow & Streaming : Internet Archive
Track No. 16
:53 – 2:18
Dylan tune
From Blonde On Blonde (1966)
Dead covered it 8 times
First: March 19, 1986 Hampton Coliseum
Last: July 8, 1995 Soldier Field
SHOW #2: Comes A Time
From: September 3, 1985
Starlight Theater, Kansas City
Track No. 20
4:34 – 5:51
Jerry Tune from Reflections album (1976) Reflections is Jerry Garcia's third solo album, released in 1976. Partway through production, Garcia stopped recording with his solo band and brought in the members of the Grateful Dead, who performed on four songs, plus a bonus jam from 2004 release. Three of the four Grateful Dead-performed songs had earlier live debuts: "Comes a Time" (1971), "They Love Each Other" (1973) and "It Must Have Been the Roses" (1974); "Might as Well" entered their rotation in 1976, and "Mission in the Rain" received a select few performances that same year.
The song appeared a total of 66 times over the years, often with several hundred shows between performances.
First played on October 19, 1971 at the U (Minnesota) in Northrup Hall
It was played for the final time on October 9, 1994, at the USAir Arena, in Landover, Maryland.
SHOW #3: Shakedown Street
From: April 6, 1982
Spectrum, Philadelphia
Track No. 13
9:10 – 10:14
Great interplay with Jerry and Brent
This is the classic Garcia sound of the ‘80’s
SHOW #4: Morning Dew
From: May 8, 1977
Barton Hall, Ithaca, NY
Track No. 22
11:50 – 13:33
OUTRO: So Many Roads
From: July 9, 1995
Soldier Field, Chicago
Grateful Dead Live at Soldier Field on 1995-07-09 : Free Borrow & Streaming : Internet Archive
Track No. 10
9:22 – 10:30
Stories:
Marijuana moment
A Senate committee has approved a spending bill report that contains sections encouraging the expansion of federally supported research into marijuana and psychedelics, while also expressing concerns about barriers to studies that result from the substances’ ongoing Schedule I designations. The panel further noted that scientists face “limited access to sources” of cannabis, suggesting that they should be able to study the actual products consumers are purchasing from state-legal dispensaries.
The Senate Appropriations Committee passed the legislation—which covers Fiscal Year 2024 funding for Labor, Health and Human Services, Education, and Related Agencies—and its attached report language last Thursday, advancing it to the floor.
In addition to the research-focused drug policy sections of the report, there’s also language in the underlying bill that prohibits the use of federal funds “for any activity that promotes the legalization of any drug or other substance included in schedule I” under the Controlled Substances Act (CSA), unless there’s “significant medical evidence of a therapeutic advantage.”
MJ Biz
A growing number of marijuana businesses are taking advantage of a tax strategy that might reduce the costly financial burden imposed by Section 280E of the federal tax code.
Small businesses with a gross income of less than $27 million are able to deduct expenses to a “near-legal” degree, according to accountants specializing in cannabis.
By one estimate, marijuana companies paid nearly $2 billion more in federal taxes than mainstream businesses.
But not all certified public accountants are on board with using the relatively new tax strategy, and they warn cannabis entrepreneurs that using it could be risky.
Section 280E currently prevents plant-touching companies from deducting many traditional business expenses because marijuana remains a Schedule 1 substance and illegal under federal law.
In recent years, a growing number of accountants and professionals specializing in cannabis discovered a small business provision within 2017’s Tax Cuts and Jobs Act.
The provision, called Section 471(c), was designed to simplify accounting for inventory and cost of goods sold (COGS) for businesses with less than $25 million in gross income.
“For example, if a business wants to include 100% of its facility costs in its inventory calculation, it could do that if it is based on the company’s books and records,” said Justin Botillier, the founder and CEO of Oregon-based accounting firm Calyx CPA.
In other words, a cannabis retailer could include expenses associated with renting a storage facility for inventory in its cost of goods sold.
For some businesses, the tax savings from including such expenses under inventory costs can be significant.
“We can get taxes down to near-legal levels,” Botillier said in an interview with MJBizDaily.
According to Richards, costs disallowed under Section 280E do not “disappear” – they just cannot be deducted under the old accounting methods.
But under Section 471(c), the limitations of the old accounting methods no longer apply and some of the costs can be recognized as COGS.
This creates the possibility of recapturing costs that were previously disallowed under 280E before the use of the 471(c) method.
But while a growing number of CPAs are using it, there are still a number of accountants who won’t use 471(c), arguing that 280E disallows any kind of deduction and could invite audits.
The limit for flower possession at a private home is two pounds. Adults can also opt to grow their own cannabis at home; each household is allowed eight plants, four of which can be flowering at any given time.
Plants must be in an enclosed, secure area that is out of public view. Rep. Hanson said this decision was made to deter crime.
The cannabis bill (HF100) in Minnesota effectively makes public consumption legal—but there are a few exceptions.
First off, smoking marijuana is not permitted in multi-family dwellings. This means people in apartment buildings or similar properties may have to leave their property if they want to smoke or dab. Eating edibles or drinking THC drinks, however, is acceptable.
Smoking in vehicles is also banned as is driving under the influence of cannabis.
While adults may be able to have cannabis as of August 1, it may be difficult for them to get it. It could be early 2025 before dispensaries open, as the state takes time to flush out the licensure process and regulations.
However, Indigenous tribes in Minnesota have been given a head start and may opt to open adult-use dispensaries essentially as soon as they’d like. So far, two tribes in the northwestern part of the state have decided to take advantage.
Minnesota’s Bureau of Criminal Apprehension will begin automatic expungement of lower-level cannabis convictions right away. Over 60,000 Minnesotans may be eligible, but officials believe it may take up to a year to clear the backlog.
“No state has made it automatic,” Rep. Hanson explained. Every state has made their people petition to get their expungements done, which we didn’t feel like that was right. That’s going to completely free up the lives of so many people.”
Felony convictions may take a bit more work to erase from individual records. A Cannabis Expungement Board will soon be formed and will determine eligibility on a case-by-case basis.
Products containing synthesized cannabinoids like HHC and THC-O were outlawed when Governor Walz signed Minnesota’s recreational marijuana bill into law earlier this summer. However, they continue to be sold in smoke shops and hemp dispensaries across the state.
According to Carol Moss, an attorney and partner at Hellmuth & Johnson, that will likely change this fall. All hemp businesses must register with the state by October 1st. Moss believes that a crackdown could come soon after.
“There’s still issues with enforcement—I expect there will be more once the state knows who’s selling it,” Moss told GreenState via text.
Hello everyone, welcome to another episode of the Deadhead Cannabis Show. I'm Larry Mishkin of Mishkin Law in Chicago. And today is August 7th, 2023, which puts us in the middle, but more towards the end of the annual, now annual days between, right? Jerry was born on August 1st, died on August 9th. And some marketing genius has declared those days, the days between. And... Dead Channel, we get a lot of Jerry concerts, which is wonderful, great interviews with Jerry music, other people covering Jerry's tunes, and you know, it's a nice celebration, it's a worthwhile celebration, especially for those of us who were always big Garcia fans, that you know, really that was what drove all of us, I think, not all of us, but certainly a lot of my group and people like Rob, I know, and others, you know. we were always tuned into Jerry. And I love Bob, I love Phil, I love all of them, and I love seeing them still, but there was something about Jerry that was very special. So in honor of the days between, we are gonna feature some clips, some of my favorite Jerry clips on some of my favorite tunes that Jerry plays, and we'll start off with this one. So that's pretty much the appropriate tune, I think, to start off for this period of time. And it captures everything very nicely. That's from Soldier Field, July 24th, 1994. Show that I was at. In fact, four of the six clips I'm gonna play today were from shows I was at. No, I'm lying, three of the six clips I'm gonna play, I think, were shows that I was at. But, and we'll talk more about that later, but this was a great one. A great version of the tune. It's a tune that I think for some of us, me especially, kinda came to be, it's acquired taste. You have to work your way through it a few times. And this was an interesting show in Chicago back in 94 because the first set ended with, if the shoe fits, easy answers and don't ease me in. And then the second set was, we got a Samson, long way to go home, eyes of the world, eternity, he's gone, drum space, the days between, throwing stones, not fade liberty. which at that point in time in my life was pretty run of the mill, especially the throwing stones, not fade Liberty, which was always, always ultimately predictable when the grateful dead came to Chicago during those soldier field years, that at least one of the nights was going to go down that road. And not that we didn't enjoy the songs, but you know, we just kept begging them once just to, you know, abandon that and, you know, go into something else and really shocked the hell out of us, but still well played. And that's a great days between, um, you know, had, uh, Jerry lived a little bit longer and had a chance to play it more, probably would have really moved right up to the top of Jerry Ballads that people love listening to and talking about. So a great way to get started. This next clip that I want to play is from a show that I wasn't at, although the very first time they covered this tune I was at the show back in 1986, so I guess that kind of counts a little bit. It's a Dylan cover, it's Jerry interpreting Bob, and it's a great version of Visions of Johanna. Beautiful tune, beautiful when Bob does it, even more beautiful when Jerry does it because his voice is a little bit better, let's not kid ourselves. So this is from the Spectrum in Philadelphia, 1995, March 18th. And what's most notable about that for me is that this is 95, you know, we're at the end. This is, you know, the fall, excuse me, the spring tour, little time off back for summer tour, and then boom, Jerry's dead. So, you know, we have all these people, when you go and you find these shows, And you start to read the comments on archive.org or on the setlist program that you can go to that has all the shows listed and you read the comments. There's always people for these mid to late, uh, you know, 93, 94, 95 shows who bring all the negative energy and all of they sucked and then, you know, no good shows since something of 92 or 91. And you know, these are terrible and blah, blah. And you're like, look, this is who they were at that time. And this is what they do. But. It's a very solid version of that tune from Jerry in 1995, both in terms of remembering the words, playing it so well, and actually really sounding energetic while he was singing it. So that's a really, I think a great thing to be able to hear and keep in mind that even at the end, Jerry had his good days, even if more often than we would like he had his bad days. Again, Visions of Johannes from the Dylan album, Blonde on Blonde came out in 1966. The debt only covered it eight times. And the first one was in March 19th, 1986 at Hampton Coliseum, which I was at. The last one was July 8th, 1995 at Soldier Field, which I was at, but I was not at March 18th, 1995. Why did I include that version of it then? I will tell you why. Because it's Phil's favorite version of the tune. And a few years back, Phil came out with an album called From the Phil Zone. It's a double disc set, and it's just a number of individual. live tunes that Phil went through and pulled out and has a little bit of an explanation for why he selected each one. But all sorts of different tunes live. They span all the eras and Phil gives his little insights on everything, but he loves this one. He goes, this was his favorite version of it. And he takes note of the fact that it was in 95 when Jerry was in failing health and people were always saying that Jerry never had a good moment and I don't remember the exact wording, but something like, but on this night, Jerry really showed over Jer. I think he always called him Jer. So this version of Visions of Johanna is good enough for Phil to pick to put on his hand-selected live disc that he's putting out. It's certainly good enough for us to play today when we're remembering Jerry and honoring him for all the good things he did. And the other thing I'll say is I'm not playing any Jerry Garcia band stuff today. And although that would certainly seem to be fitting, honoring Jerry with his own band and the stuff that he did on his own. birth there on the days between, I don't disagree. But there's so many great moments of him with the Grateful Dead that it's just a shame not to focus on them. When it's the Jerry Garcia band playing, it's more a question of this great moment, this great moment, this great moment, but when it's him playing with the Grateful Dead, it's a little bit different. Not every tune is his tune, not every tune is he stepping out on, not every tune does he hit the notes all so well. But on the nights when he does it with the Grateful Dead, certainly those are some of the best. And I think the one thing we'll find today that all these clips kind of have in common is that very fact that they all come from nights when Jerry was really on. And like I say, if I was at the show then I know. And if I wasn't at the show, as you'll see from some of the later selections, there are versions of songs that are pretty much top flight for any real deadhead worth their salt, as they say. We've all heard these versions and we all know them, but sometimes it's just nice to stop and group them together and really have some fun with it. So we're talking about Jerry today and there's so many stories about him and there's so many videos and you can just go online and find them all. They're all great and it's kind of hard just to pick any one and focus on it. uh... you know jerry or bobby or any of them we don't start to recall our favorite moments uh... we love we love recounting moments of jerry doing things musically singing dancing forgetting the words whatever it might be uh... that you know it i was it becomes boring it never is boring but it's just you know it's somehow it's hard it begins to sound the same but i think that one of the things it's really cool for any musician, just like anybody in any category, is how your peers feel about you. And the people who are doing the same thing you're doing on a regular basis, and who have the same struggles that you as a songwriter, performer, guy who's always on tour, have to go through. And it's really amazing to hear some of the things that people in the music industry and related stuff have said about Jerry over the years. Like for instance, Vince Wellnick said, first time ever laid eyes on Jerry, I believed in Santa Claus. I still believe. Now, the one thing unfortunately I can't give you is exactly when all these quotes date from. But I'm going to believe that this had something to do while he was playing with the dead or maybe shortly thereafter or maybe right around the time Jerry died because we've all talked about Vince and how ultimately he got the short end of the stick for the 2015 reunion and everything else. You know, we've heard that it was something that he never really completely bounced back from in terms of, you know, not being upset and disappointed that after the work he did for them, that they didn't bring him in that way. And, you know, I would have to feel the same. I mean, we all grew to love Vince just like we loved Brent and everybody else. But I love this quote because, you know, it just kind of demonstrates the kid in all of them. And, you know, Santa Claus is a very universal theme. And we all know what somebody means when they say that, unless it's one of those weird bad Santa movies. But otherwise, you know, it just is what it is and, you know, it's very nice of Vince. Dwight Yoakam, right? Well, here's a guy who's, you know, in a completely different genre of music. But his quote is, I'll miss Jerry every time I hear the sweet sound of the pedal steel guitar he played on Crosby Still's Nash and Young's Teach Your Children. And we've talked about that. We've talked about, um, uh, guys from that band who have played with the Grateful Dead and how Jerry's played back with them and they taught the guys of the dead how to harmonize and. uh... you know jerry played on this song on their album for them and but you know uh... a guy like dwight yokem who focuses much more on the countryside of music and you know not quite as much on the rock and roll you know shows where his roots actually lay right he's very well familiar with Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young he's very familiar with the fact that Garcia played on the album and uh... you know very complimentary of it i think that's a great thing too you know then we have Bruce Hornsby who was you know such a may have been the seventh member of the Grateful Dead. Certainly the amount of time he gave them after Brent died was exceptional. And those were very special shows when he was out there playing with them. And it was great to have him back in 2015. And his quote is that, "'Garcia spoke to my jazz consciousness and symbolized freedom.'" Two interesting thoughts there, right? Jazz consciousness as a musician. I see that as something that's on a slightly higher plane than maybe just your standard three chord rock and roll, at least the way I think Bruce Hornsby is interpreting it because he's not just, it wouldn't be fair to just label him as a rock and roll pianist, he's a real pianist and he has exceptional talent and he plays in a number of different genres in and out of rock and roll music, whether it's the Grateful Dead style or any of the others. And of course symbolized freedom because that's what the Grateful Dead were always all about. That's what Jerry was all about. He was the leader of that group in terms of freedom, go ahead, tape our shows, go ahead, hang out, go ahead, tune in, drop out, whatever the phrase was. I wasn't old enough to know it back then. So forgive me, people who lived in the 60s. But nevertheless, that's Jerry. And when it's cool, when a guy like Bruce Hornsby recognizes him, A, both for his outstanding musical talents and B, for the visions and the thoughts and the movements that really came to symbolize Jerry's life and what he did stand for people when he was out there playing and doing all of his great stuff. Rock Scully, who was a manager for the band basically from 65 to 85 and then was in and out with them for a while after that and had some hard feelings and sometimes they tried to make it up. You know, Rock passed away from cancer a few years back, and I certainly can't tell you how things were left between and among them all, but there's no doubt that he was a significant part of the band, during a very significant portion of their career. Rock Scully says Jerry was the grateful dad, not because he was the band's unofficial leader or its icon, but because of his noble spirit and stupefying resilience. That's interesting to say about somebody stupefying resilience. Well, that's true. Jerry just had the ability to come back again and again and again. If they had a bad night, it didn't matter. If they had a good night, he was still coming back out. If the cops came out and busted him, you know, he still would come back the next night and play. He went into a coma and, you know, within months was back playing again. And then it happened a second time. He was a very resilient man. And given his drug habits and levels of consumption... over the last 20 plus years of his life, it's amazing that he showed the resilience to live as long as he did. We all just wish he would have been around a little bit longer and could have done his thing a little bit more, but we're happy for what we had with him and from him and have to agree with Rox Scully on this, that he did have a very noble spirit and his resilience was both amazing and motivating and a little bit scary. There's John Perry Barlow, who of course was the great lyricist for so many of Bobby's tunes, Bob Weir's tunes. He said, somebody asked me in an interview right before Jerry died what it was like to know Jerry Garcia. The question hit me strange. I thought about all the ways in which he and his various manifestations had woven themselves into my life over the last 30 years. I said, God, I can't imagine what it would be like not to know Jerry Garcia. Yeah. I think there's a reason why deadheads always kind of imagine that they were going to turn the corner and wander into a little party where Jerry was hanging out. And he'd look up and say, hey, man, come join us. And you'd get to know Jerry, too. A lot of people are afraid, I think, ultimately, to meet their rock and roll heroes, because you just don't know if the rock and roll heroes are going to be assholes or approachable people or what they're going to be like. And guys like John Perry Barlow, all the Admittedly, he was very deep into the family at that point. But my sense is that Jerry was that way with everybody he met and that he was not very judgmental of people. And if you weren't bothering him, he wasn't around to be bothering you. And that would be an amazing type of person to know. But for many of us, it was not the way. We only know him through his music and the other parts we've heard about him and seen about him. But there may be. Nobody other than his daughters and other family members who knows him better than Mountain Girl. Mountain Girl, who was his first wife and such an integral part of the early years of the Grateful Dead and everything that they did as they were just kind of like moving in together, all of them and really forming their community and, the role that she played so deep and woven that even after she and Jerry broke up, she remained a part of the family and part of the inner circle right up until the very end. She was one of the original Ken Kesey pranksters and part of the whole psychedelic movement and definitely somebody who was, no matter how many other people Jerry married, I think was always kind of hard, ultimately not to imagine him with her. And her quote was just to quote, in fact, one of the greatest lyricists of all time saying, we'll meet again someday on the avenue, which is very appropriate because I'm sure that her karmic spirit absolutely believes that she and Jerry are meant to be together and they will meet again someday. But this is also a little nod, I think, to Jerry and his interpretation of Tangled Up in Blue, a Bob Dylan classic that We all know Jerry loved to play and became a regular part of the playing of his songbook, playing with the Jerry Garcia band. So it's both nice and lovely and appropriate. And, you know, again, from out and girl who had a very special relationship with Jerry, you know, is particularly meaningful. So let's dive back into all of our music here. And the next one we have is another Jerry favorite of mine. It is actually considered a Jerry Garcia tune because it came off a Jerry Garcia album, but the dead did get around to playing it. So let's listen to Comes of Time. So that's Comes of Time, and that's the Starlight Theater in Kansas City on September 3rd, 1985, a show that Rob and I talk about often. It's part of that summer of 85 stretch when the band was really killing it, and they had jumped back into that set for the other one, the full boat on that. They were pulling out some old classics, and Comes of Time was one of them that they did pull out. And those of us that were all going to law school at the University of Missouri at the time and were smart enough and lucky enough to be able to drive two hours west to Kansas City. except for my buddy Mark who drove all the way from St. Louis and met us in Columbia, Missouri and had the rest of the way over there with us. My good buddy Casey was there. We had a whole group of people and it's really one of the best shows I think of 1985 and maybe of the entire 1980s. But this comes a time from that night was really, really classic and well worth featuring today again, as we think about, try to remember Jerry. The tune. from his album, his solo album, Reflections, which came out in 1976. It was his third solo album. But interestingly enough, partway through the production, he stopped recording with his solo band and brought in the members of the Grateful Dead, who performed on four songs plus a bonus jam for the 2004 release, re-release. Three of the four Grateful Dead performer songs had earlier live debuts. comes a time being one of them which debuted in 1971. They Love Each Other which debuted in 1973. And it must have been The Roses which debuted in 1974. Might as well entered their rotation in 1976 and Mission of the Rain received a few select performances that same year but not much more after that. So this was a Garcia album that was basically test driven by The Grateful Dead. It appeared a total of 66 times over The Grateful Dead's 30 years, and it was not uncommon for them to play it in short bursts, so three times in 10 shows maybe. And then they'd go several hundred shows before it would make another appearance. It was first performed on October 19, 1971, at Northrop Hall at the original U, the U of Minnesota. Sky-U-Ma-Ra-Ra-Ra, and all that good stuff. And that's actually a night when the dead broke out a number of tunes. It's worth it to go to archive.org and check out October 19th, 1971 from Minnesota, Minneapolis. And, um, you'll, you'll hear and be amazed at how good everything sounds and how early it is that they're playing some of these tunes. But again, this being one of them, this is five years before the album dropped. And, uh, it was played for the last time on October 9th, 1994 at US air arena in land over Maryland. Um, And then unfortunately, for the next 10 months or so that were left, dropped out of the rotation again, and we didn't get to hear it anymore. Now, the next song is from a show that I did not see, but my good buddy Mikey was there. And it's always been one of my favorites back when we were collecting tapes and right up to the present, where if I just have some time at hand and I want to listen. I will drop on set two and it begins like this. classic version of one of their classic tunes. Again, from April 6th, 1982, The Spectrum in Philadelphia, they later released the show in their Road Trip series, and I couldn't remember, I can't tell you what volume and number it was, but it's easily found online with Grateful Dead Store. It's a tremendous show all the way through. I could have really picked anything but that guitar, and notice no vocals were necessary there. There's two or three excellent guitar solos in this version. And... He just slides in and out of them effortlessly. They're all wonderful. It is a classic 1980s Jerry Garcia sound on his guitar with the wah-wahs going strong. And I really love the interplay between he and Brent. Again, this is still relatively early in Brent's tenure with the band, just basically going on three years at this point. And he and Jerry are trade licks and leads as they go through the jamming of the tune. very effortlessly and it's fun to listen to and we've often talked about how they inspired one another and I think that this is another really great example of that. So let's dive back in for a minute I think because I pulled down a few more of these quotes from people talking about Jerry and the website that I went to directed me to about 80 or 85 of them and you know probably 20 or 30 of them were, you could live with them or without them. But there were very, very many that were good, but I can't just be sitting here all day reading quotes, but I felt like I could not read the rest of these. So let's just go through them here. Branford Marsalis, famous sax player who became a fan favorite, deadhead favorite on those occasions when he would sit in with the band. Their Eyes of the World from March 1989 out on Long Island, I think is still one of my all-time favorites that they've ever played. And it's just amazing. He's incredible. And putting him together with the Grateful Dead is something else. He says, there is not a sentence in the world that could respectfully do justice to the life and music of Jerry Garcia. And that's a pretty heavy statement, if you think about it. Branford Marsalis is in the business of making statements to people, musically, of course. But you know he's saying that Jerry's bigger than that Jerry's beyond that and right you can't really use words to do him justice uh you have to be there you have to have heard him you have to been on stage playing with him you have to experience all that kind of stuff that he brings to the table um and when you do then how can you possibly go back and sum it up in just you know one sentence one word one anything you can't uh Bob Dylan says There's no way to measure Jerry's greatness or magnitude as a person or as a player. He really had no equal. His playing was moody, awesome, sophisticated, hypnotic and subtle. There's no way to convey the loss. Obviously, uh, statement made at the time of Jerry's passing. And I think about this for a minute. There's no way to measure his greatness or magnitude as a person or as a player. He really had no equal. Now this is Bob Dylan talking and I love Jerry, but I think there's so many people out there who would say that Bob Dylan is the epitome of the ultimate, you know, defining rock and roller of all time. His songs that everybody plays and his style and his independence and his breakaway from the, when he saw this more confining acoustical style and branching out into electric at the Newport Jazz Festival and feeling the wrath of the crowd as he did it. Uh, and, and your writing songs that the dead covered forever. So many of them, so many of them that there's albums of grateful dead covers of Bob Dylan tunes. And Bob Dylan is saying that, you know, Jerry, there's no way to measure Jerry's greatness or magnitude as a person. Bob Dylan saying Jerry had no equal. You know, that would be like, you know, if you're a basketball player and you know, Michael Jordan says, yeah, Dan Humiston had no equal, you know, and I mean, Michael Jordan will for God sakes, you know, if he's saying it, how How can you be saying it like that? And Dan's a good player, don't get me wrong. But you know, I mean, this is just, I read this kind of stuff and you know, it really makes me, you know, I don't wanna say it makes me proud. I mean, you know, Jerry was just this wonderful musician to me, but you know, it was very reaffirming, you know, all of these strong feelings that we all had about Jerry and who he was and who he was as a person and who he was as a musician and how amazing his tunes were. And you know, were we really the crazy ones driving all around the country to hear him play? Or were we the smart ones knowing that, you know, 10 years after he died, all of a sudden it would be very retro. I totally loved Jerry Garcia and the Grateful Dead. And everybody would wanna say that they had been at all of those shows, but we were really there. And Bob Dylan, man, that's fantastic. Jerry's bandmate and little buddy for years, Bob Weir, says, I see Jerry in my dreams all the time. I hear him when I'm on stage. I would say I can't talk to him, but I can. I don't miss him. He's here. He's with me. Of course, what else is Bob Weir going to say, right? I love that. That's classic Bobby. He's talking sense and nonsense at the same time, but he's talking from the heart. We all know what he means. And it had to be very strange for Bob Weir because I think that Bob was very comfortable in his role in The Grateful Dead. And I don't mean that in a disparaging way, that they were all equally important. And they were all, and Bob still is, tremendous musicians. But you know, it's like talking about Susan Sadesky, you know, playing next standing right next to her husband Derek trucks Who's you know, the greatest guitar player in the world? So when you want to Otherwise any night we would all be staring at her a beautiful woman with an amazing voice who plays guitar Practically better than anybody except the guy standing next to her and Bob Weir was an amazing rock and roller and still is And I'm glad that he's had his time to shine without Jerry Although I wish still he would play the fewer Jerry tunes and more Bobby tunes But he's had his time to shine and I think he's done a marvelous job in many respects, leading Rat Dog, leading Bob Weir and the Wolf Brothers, certainly of course leading Dead and Company, playing in Further, playing in all of these other bands. He's the one guy who's been in all of them as they've come along. And it's wonderful that... You know, he feels so close to all of that. It's still such a meaningful part for him. And, um, you know, we all go out there and still see, uh, the, the dead and co shows and all these other shows because seeing Bob we're is seeing the grateful dead. And, you know, even if it's a day during the, at the time, you know, we were all, all Jerry fans and you know, if we had our way, um, there would all be Jerry tunes, you know, and. Jerry would just play all night and Bobby would fill in his background and maybe at the end throw in a sugar magnolia and we'd all go home with a smile on our face. But Bobby more than earned his place in the band and earned his way into the hearts and the gratitude of all the deadheads everywhere. He's the surviving, of the two of them, he's the surviving member. I would say he hasn't disappointed but I love hearing him talk like that and expressing how close he was to Garcia and how important. Uh, you know, Garcia was, and, uh, you know, he's, he's just not ready to say goodbye and if he's not that I'm not. And now here's a good one, right? Because everybody talks about fish and everybody talks about Trey and Trey played at the 2015 reunion and, uh, you know, Trey is what Jerry would trade. A day is where Jerry would have been, uh, back in the day, if he hadn't overdosed and died, if he had been able to extricate himself from, uh, the, the terrible, uh, Um, uh, condition that he had that, that just would not let him walk away uh, from the, uh, from the claws, if you will, of heroin and other drugs that were so terrible and dangerous and took so many rockers' lives. And you can say, well, yeah, we got Jerry 30 years longer, almost in the 27 club. But we didn't get him as long as we could have. And I think Trey's a great example. And we've talked about that in the past. And Trey and his bandmates just made a conscious decision that being a touring band was not compatible with helping somebody train kick. this type of addiction. And to their credit, they took the time that was necessary for trade to get better and whatever the other ones wanted to do and take care of during that period of time. And they've come back stronger and better than ever. And it's amazing to see as they enter their late 50s and early 60s, how much incredible energy they still have. And while they may be not a half a step, let's say a quarter step slower than they used to be. They still play with a wonderful energy and they still play with a great excitement and they still play amazing shows. God bless Terranostasio and those guys. It's a great band. My only wish is I would have dived into the whole scene a little bit sooner, but I'm happy to take them when I can get them. So Trey says about Jerry that, Jerry was a very gentle and unassuming man who brought so much joy and love into people's lives through music. I can't think of a more profound and beautiful accomplishment. at the end of a lifetime. And what's amazing about that is he's absolutely right in so many ways. He's right about that for any person. Uh, he's right about that for Jerry Garcia. And they're going to say the same thing about trans Nostalgia someday. And they're going to say that we can't think of, you know, the tray was a general unassuming man who brought so much joy and love into people's lives through music and you know, I, it's amazing that, you know, Tracy's it and Jerry. And my guess is if you tried to ask Trey if he saw it as himself, that he would be a little more unassuming and Trey's never really bought into any of that stuff. A lot of the same way that Jerry never bought into it. Not out there hawking stuff on TV and showing up in all of the periodicals and paparazzi magazines and that kind of stuff. They go, they play their music, they have their families, they do their thing. And, uh, you know, Trey, if there's any human being alive, I think, you know, who can relate to what it felt, what it feels like to be Jerry Garcia, you know, I would say that Trey has to be, you know, in the top one, two or three, uh, candidates for that because he has, with his bandmates built a musical juggernaut, uh, that maybe it isn't quite as big and, you know, overwhelming as the Grateful Dead, but certainly big enough and, uh, with a wonderful community and you know, their own fish heads and everything that they do. And you know, they've taken the ideas of the Grateful Dead and you know, transformed it into a way that works so well for them. So it's wonderful to hear, you know, Trey be able to talk about Jerry that way and recognize him. And I'm sure I'm echoing the frustration of a lot of dead heads who have become late in life fish fans, but for God's sakes, man, play a dead tune every now and then. Show us what you can do. If there's anybody out there who's qualified to do it, Trey. It's you, you played with those boys. Come on. We're all waiting for you just to break into a shakedown street one night. It's going to happen. So let's make it happen sooner. Um, the next one who, uh, has a quote about Jerry is, is a guy who, um, boy, it's kind of hard to describe exactly, you know, what Ken Kesey means to, to the movement and to the grateful dad and to so many of us really who. for whom he opened, you know, kind of unlocked our brains and, you know, really showed us the other side of life. And, you know, what happens when you push past the point where your parents always say no. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest was an amazing book, and I read it when I was much younger, and it didn't mean nearly as much to me as it did when I read it again when I was much older. The story as much as just his wonderful style of writing and the way he conveys that whole story. But that's Ken Kesey 1.0. Ken Kesey 2.0 is the Ken Kesey who moved up to Oregon and bought the farm and bought the further bus and created the home base for the Merry Pranksters who definitely were the movement that gave birth to the Grateful Dead by way of all of their trips festivals and acid tests. Thomas Wolf wrote about the electric Kool-Aid acid test, which if you have never read that book, read it, because whether you're a dead fan, whether you're a psychedelics fan, it doesn't matter. He's a great writer. It's a very great story. And it really conveys a lot of wonderful things about both Ken Kesey's community from which the Grateful Dead emerged as the house band for the acid tests. And then, you know, continuing through to the Grateful Dead. you know, really becoming the main attraction. And so many people being there and enjoying themselves with a slightly altered perspective based on this wonderful drug that Ken Kesey was so instrumental in helping unleash on the masses, if you will, you know, right up there with Owlsley Stanley and some of the other guys who were really at the forefront of making sure that people who wanted to uh, take their own little trip, had the ability to do so. Um, so, you know, Ken Kesey is just such an important guy in so many ways. And he says, Jerry knocked the chunk out of the wall and let the sun shine through. And it's up to us to keep that light shining through, or someday we are going to have to answer to him. And I like how he puts that at the end, right? That, uh, wherever we're all going, Jerry's going to be there again. And, um, you know, that that's a wonderful thought. Um, you know, comforting in some ways, not the ultimate comfort. Certainly this is, uh, you know, we grow older and we have loved ones and everything else like that. But certainly nice to know as a deadhead that, you know, if there's an possibility to, you know, to catch up again with Jerry somewhere else in another dimension and another time's forgotten space and, uh, you know, hear what he can, uh, hear what he could do now, or who knows, maybe we could do it. And he listens to us, right. But whatever it is, um, uh, it's all pretty cool. And, um, You know, uh, love that about, uh, Keezy. The last quote that we have is, um, from a guy who really was Jerry's right-hand man for so many years. And, you know, with whom, uh, he and Jerry wrote so many, so many wonderful tunes, so much beautiful music, uh, that we all still listen to today and love so much, and that of course is Robert Hunter, who we lost earlier this year, late last year. And only Robert Hunter could say it this way. So here's, here's Robert Hunter's quote about Jerry Garcia. I feel your silent laughter and sentiment so bold that date to step across the line to tell what must be told. So I'll just say, I love you, which I never said before and let it go at that old friend, the rest you may ignore. Well. You know, nobody says it better than Robert Hunter and nobody says it better with Jerry Garcia than Robert Hunter. And I think that's a beautiful quote about Jerry and one that really resonates for me and, you know, one where I think maybe it's time to say, okay, enough of that and, um, Dan, I think it's time to talk a little marijuana. What do you got for us today? Yes. Who is that, Dan?
Dan Humiston:
Jim Stafford.
Larry:
Jim Stafford, oh my goodness, wow. Okay, well, yeah, this is good stuff that you found and thank you for finding that stuff and playing it. It always puts a smile on my face at this time of day. So today, we start off with an article from our friends over at Marijuana Moment, thank you very much, telling us that a key Senate committee says that federal law blocks marijuana and psychedelics research. due to Schedule I restrictions, at which point we all want to completely gag and puke all over ourselves because are they dragging us back into this classic catch-22? Well, let's turn to the record and see what it says. A Senate committee, the Appropriations Committee, has approved a spending bill that contains sections encouraging the expansion of federally supported research into marijuana and psychedelics while also expressing concern about barriers to studies that result from the substances ongoing Schedule I designations. The panel further noted that scientists face limited access to sources of cannabis, suggesting that they should be able to study the actual products consumers are purchasing from state legal dispensaries. The Senate Appropriations Committee passed the legislation, which covers fiscal year 2024 funding for labor, health, and human services education-related agencies, and its attached report language last Thursday. advancing it to the floor. In addition to the research-focused drug policy sections of the report, there's also language in the underlying bill, this is the part that we hate to hate, love to hate, that prohibits the use of federal funds for any activity that promotes the legalization of any drug or any substance included in Schedule I under the Controlled Substances Act unless there's a significant medical evidence of a therapeutic advantage. OK, let's parse this out for a minute, as my old high school English teacher would tell us. Right? What are they saying here? It's on schedule one because it has no significant evidence of therapeutic advantage. How would we discover that significant medical evidence of therapeutic advantage? By testing it. But guess what? It's on schedule one, so you're not allowed to test it. Right? Sorry, guys. This is on schedule one. The only way to get it scheduled off is to test it and show otherwise. But oops, you can't test it either. Okay, Richard Nixon's been dead for a long time. The Controlled Substances Act served its purpose for a time. No, it really didn't, but it made certain people feel like it did. But now we just have to say enough, right? Because... Marijuana, please. Go talk to all the people who use medical marijuana. Go talk to all these people in all these studies. Another study and another study and another study that we read week after week after week. People have pain relief, increased styles of living, more energy to go out and do things. These are all wonderful things for which they are no longer having to take hard medical drugs. So you can't say that this is not producing a therapeutic advantage. It just is. And to say it's not is to be willfully blind and to say, you know, that, nope, sorry, we're going to put form over substance here and we're just not going. We're going to keep our eyes closed and stick our fingers in our ears and yell really, really loud. Nah, nah, nah. And we're going to pretend like it doesn't exist and you can't make it exist because the only way you could make it exist would be by doing something illegal. So you better not be testing it because if you are, you're testing schedule one and go straight to jail. You know, do not pass go do not collect $200. You're done go off to jail. So, you know, look Hopefully what they really mean by all of this is that they're gonna find a way to get this nonsense taken care of So we don't have to keep having these ridiculous stupid artificial barriers that you know Anyone is perfectly capable of understanding and looking at and seeing Um and saying this is just stupid. It's just stupid My wife gets mad when I say things are stupid or I call people stupid, but this is stupid There's no other way to describe it, honey. I'm sorry It's just stupid. The only stupid people would rationalize in the way that the federal government tries to rationalize about marijuana. So stupid is as stupid does, and yeah, that's Forrest Gump or something, but he was smarter than them. So come on, federal government, pull your head out of your ass, get it right, and let's figure out how to move all of this forward without buying into these old, silly, nonsense talking points from back in the day that... there is just no medical advantage. It's such a lie that you insult us every time you try to point that out. Now, here's an interesting story, and I like this one because at least on the surface it seems to solve a problem. And on a deeper level, it screws the government. So, amen to that. This is from our friends over at MJ Biz, and we appreciate all of their great news and services and providing the happenings of the day in the cannabis world to people out there so we can all so you take advantage of it. In this article, they point out that there might be people who have a solution to our common enemy, our common enemy being 280E, the tax program that unfairly taxes cannabis businesses. We've talked about forever with my former host Jim Marty, who was one of the early pioneers in cannabis tax accounting and fought many battles. with the federal government over 280E and how to expand the cost of goods sold, which is the loan deductible component that dispensary owners who are engaged in the retail sale of this Schedule I product. So what happens? Well, a growing number of marijuana businesses are taking advantage of a tax strategy that might reduce the costly financial burden imposed by Section 280 of the federal tax code. Small businesses with a gross income of less than $27 million are able to deduct expenses to a near legal degree according to accountants specializing in cannabis. By one estimate, marijuana companies pay nearly $2 billion more in federal taxes in mainstream businesses. Why? Because you can't deduct your ordinary business expenses. So you're paying taxes on 66% instead of 33%. It's just insane. But not all certified public accountants are on board with using the relatively new tax strategy. They warn cannabis entrepreneurs that using it can be risky. So section 280E currently prevents plant touching companies from deducting many traditional business expenses because marijuana remains a schedule one controlled substance and it's illegal under federal law. In recent years, a growing number of accountants and professionals specializing in cannabis discovered a small business provision within 2017's Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. The provision called Section 471C was designed to simplify accounting for inventory and cost of goods sold for businesses with less than $25 million in gross income. For example, if a business wants to include 100% of its facility costs in its inventory calculation, it could do that if it is based on the company's books and records. according to one accountant based in Oregon who did a lot of work on this. In other words, a cannabis retailer can include expenses associated with renting a storage facility for inventory and its cost of goods sold. For some businesses, the tax savings from including such expenses under inventory costs could be significant. We can get taxes down to near legal levels, the accountant said when being interviewed. According to him... costs disallowed under Section 280E do not disappear, they just cannot be deducted under the old accounting methods, but under Section 271C, the limitations of the old accounting methods no longer apply, and some of the costs can be recognized as cost of goods sold. This creates the possibility of recapturing costs that were previously disallowed under 280E before the use of the 471C method. But again, while a growing number of CPAs are using it, there are still a number of accountants who won't use 471C. arguing the 280e disallows any kind of deduction and will invite an audit even if you try and put it under this other section. Now, I'm not an accountant. I don't pretend to be an accountant. Certainly not smart enough to be an accountant. And one of these days I'm going to reach out to Jim Marty because we haven't had him on in a long time and we're going to bring him on board and see if he can explain all of this to us in a way that makes some sense and would be helpful. for the smaller people. Now, understanding, of course, when they say 27 million gross, a lot of small operators would be thrilled to make that. But that totally knocks out the multistate operators, because they're pulling in gross numbers that are gross. I mean, they're very, very large and far larger than that, so they don't get the small business benefit. But it is interesting to see that there are still accountants out there who have not given up the fight and who are still looking and searching for ways to beat the government in its own game in this. hats off to them and more power to them. And if you're operating a cannabis business and your plan touching and you think that you might have some 280e liability, I would advise you to absolutely positively go out and talk to somebody who has experience in cannabis accounting. It has to be cannabis accounting. It can't be your uncle's best friend from college who's a really, really good accountant because cannabis accounting sections don't apply with regular accounting. These are completely different things. And somebody who's not a cannabis accountant would never have any reason or excuse. ever be dealing with them and may not know or fully understand the implications of these sections of the tax code. But you should absolutely be getting professional advice if you are a plant touching company, particularly if you're a dispensary and you are selling it at the retail level. The third story I want to drop in today is a great story for a number of reasons. Um, first of all, it's a, um, uh, hats off to Minnesota and, uh, why not? Um, they have now enacted a legalization, uh, act that many feel could become a national model. Uh, thank you to my good friend, Andy Greenberg, a very good friend of the show and a frequent guest who sent me this article a few days ago. Uh, she is a Minnesota native and good buddy, Mikey, who took me to my first show as a Minnesota guy and, uh, Lee being the whole crowd up there. So I always like to give a hats off for, uh, Minnesota. Um, so let's, let's look and see, uh, five ways that, uh, the experts believe that Minnesota's legalization could be a national model. Okay. Point number one, possession, consumption and home grow are all legal. So starting as this was passed, which I believe is August 1st. So. We're now three days into it. Adults 21 and over are able to have up to two ounces of cannabis flower, eight grams of concentrates, and 800 milligrams of THC edibles in public. Those will also be purchase limits in adult use dispensaries. The limit for flower possession at a private home is two pounds. That's pretty significant. Adults can also opt to grow their own cannabis at home. Each household is allowed eight plants, four of which can be flowering at any given time. Plants must be in an enclosed, secure area that is out of public view. That's a decision being made to deter crime. It's a smart decision. So this all sounds great. Everything starts on August 1st. So again, two days ago, so this would be day three. And I like the part about being able to have up to two pounds at home. In Illinois, patients are still limited to two and a half ounces. So that's how much you can buy in a dispensary at a time. But if you already have an ounce at home and you're going to buy some and bring it home, you could, according to the rules, you can only buy an ounce and a half. You know, here, uh, to be able to buy up to two pounds to have at home, uh, it could be significant for people who have conditions, uh, that demand larger doses and larger quantities of, uh, medical cannabis for them to be able to use. So that's a good point. Um, point number two, defining where you can consume, maybe, maybe tough. Okay, so it effectively makes public consumption legal, but there are a few exceptions. Now that's notable right there because most states effectively made public consumption illegal, and then we would find a few exceptions. So, you know, in this case, and I have not had a chance yet to talk to any of my Minnesota counterparts to get the inside story on what's going on with all of this, but my read about that is that you know, you should be able to smoke it, um, in a public place, uh, except for where well, multifamily dwellings. Okay. Well, that's apartments and condominiums. Um, so they may have to leave their building if they want to smoke or dab, which is interesting because in Illinois you're really in a tough spot cause you can't go outside to smoke or dab because it can only smoke or dab, uh, inside out of view of the public. Um, but they also say that You know, if you live in an apartment building, which a very large percentage of people do and who live in the city, that, you know, you need your apartment owners permission to do it. If the apartment owner has a mortgage and the bank that holds the mortgage for the, for the, uh, for the landlord says, Nope, no way. We won't let you have marijuana on the property because we don't want to run the risk of government forfeiture of the property because that's our security for you to repay your loan. And then the landlord comes back and says, Hey guys, look, I'm really sorry. Uh, you know, you can't smoke. You can't smoke in your apartment. But in Illinois, you can't, I mean, technically speaking, you're not allowed to go outside and smoke. But you can't smoke in your car. That really leaves you with nowhere to smoke. But here, interestingly enough, it looks like they are saying that even if you can't smoke in your apartment, you can leave your property, you can go outside, and you can smoke. I'm sure that as more rules are enacted, they'll address that a little bit more in things like public transportation, you know, in schools. you know, sporting events, you know, where there's large crowds gathered. So we'll see where it all breaks out at the end. But, but so far that's interesting. Um, now here's one that I, that, you know, is a little bit funny for me. And it makes me wonder because it says cannabis, cannabis sales are currently limited to tribal dispensaries while adults may be able to have cannabis as of August 1st, it may be difficult for them to get it. It could be early, early 2025 before dispensaries open as the state takes time to flush out the license process and regular. the license sure process and regulations. However, indigenous tribes in Minnesota have been given a head start may opt to open adult use dispensaries essentially as soon as they'd like. So far, two tribes in the Northwestern part of the state have decided to take advantage. So this is fascinating, right? Cause remember point one in this of the five things said starting today, adults, 21 and over able to have up to two ounces of cannabis flower, if they can find where to buy it. So. You know, that's, that seems to me to be a little bit of a bait and switch. And I'm not sure why it's going to take all the way until 2025 to get dispensaries open. This is August of 2023. You know, most States are in Illinois and now not every state can be Missouri. That did it in 87 days, but for God's sakes, if Missouri could do it that fast and Arizona could do it that fast, it shouldn't take Arizona, you know, the better part of a year and a half before they can get dispensaries open that aren't located on tribal lands. And while I'm all for allowing indigenous people and indigenous tribes anywhere in the country to be able to sell cannabis and benefit from it, just like everybody else does, I can't believe that in Minnesota it has to be such a long time before the regular Minnesota citizen is just going to be able to walk to a dispensary like, heck, like we can do now in Illinois, like they can do in all the states that have legal cannabis. I know a lot of people in Minnesota, they're just waiting. So as soon as they get the green light from the government... Let's start opening up those dispensaries and we can make an evening of it in downtown, uh, Svenski. Uh, okay. The third point, automatic expungement of criminal records starts immediately. Now this is just good. Minnesota's Bureau of Criminal Apprehension will begin automatic expungement of lower level cannabis convictions right away. Over 60,000 Minnesotans may be eligible, but officials believe it may take up to a year to clear the backlog. No state has made it automatic. One of their representatives explained. Every state has made their people petition to get the expungements done, which we didn't feel was the right way to go. That's going to completely free up the lives of so many people. Felony convictions may take a bit more work to erase from individual records. A cannabis expungement board will soon be formed and will determine eligibility on a case by case basis. This is great. This is just fantastic. And there's just no other way to say it. They're absolutely right. Every other state they've put the burden on the individuals to A, be aware of the fact that there's an expungement program. And B, to have the sophistication to know where to go and how to fill out the forms for an expungement program and how to present it and C, otherwise to have enough money to be able to pay somebody else to do it for them. And here they're saying, Nope, we're the government. Uh, we're going to take care of it. And that's just wonderful. I, I applaud them for that. And that is something that any state model, uh, should look to, uh, emulate. Even if you're a state like Illinois or Colorado or California, or any of the states that are already up and running. There's nothing that says you can't change when a better idea comes along. And that's a great idea. So, uh, I would like, it would be wonderful to see more states consider that. And then of course, the fifth point about the Minnesota statute is it has a ban on synthetic cannabinoids products containing, uh, synthesized cannabinoids like HHC and THC. Oh, we're outlawed earlier when the governor of Minnesota signed Minnesota's recreational marijuana bill into law. However, they continue to be sold in smoke shops. and hemp dispensaries across the state. According to a Minnesota attorney, that will likely change this fall. All hemp businesses must register with the state by October 1st. Otherwise, the attorney believes that a crackdown could come soon after. There's still an issue with enforcement. I expect there will be more once the state knows who's selling it, the attorney said. So, you know, look, synthetic cannabinoids, okay, fine. Although some people say that also includes Delta-8. So of course, you know, we have to be very careful when a state wants to start eliminating things. From a health and safety perspective, I have no problem with it. But from a business perspective, and let's get the people what they want and what they're really looking for perspective, I'm not as fond of that type of a system. So, we'll just have to kind of wait and see what happens in terms of where they go with that. But Minnesota legal cannabis are now on the table. make your way up to the land of 10,000 lakes, but just make sure you find the right one out of 10,000 where they have an Indian tribe so you can go and buy your flour marijuana because it sounds like you may not be able to do it in any other part of town. Now I'll check in with the Minnesota crowd and find out if I'm misreading all of this. And if I am, well, you can be sure we'll be back quickly to change that and to get the correct news out there. But either way, again, it's great to see Minnesota doing it. I'm gonna be with a lot of my old Michigan crowd up in Minnesota this fall, with the Wolverines head out there to play the Gophers and the continuation of the Little Brown Jug series. I believe it's the oldest rival trophy in all of college football. This is not a Michigan podcast, so I don't need to get into it much deeper than that. But it's a lot of fun, and we've seen the game in Minnesota a few times because we have friends out there. We're all gonna get a big group out there this time and You know, there may be some stories to come out of that we can share in future editions of the Deadhead Cannabis show With the aforementioned but seldomly seen or heard Alex Wellens and a number of other people But it should be a great weekend and a lot of fun Okay, so now More music and this is Really one of my all-time favorite Jerry Garcia clips. It's every deadheads one of their favorite Jerry Garcia clips Let's hear it. Yeah, any dead who doesn't know the Morning Dew Crescendo, the Jerry solo there from Barton Hall, Ithaca May 8th, 1977. Go out and have your deadhead credentials re-examined because that's, we should all know that. We should all be singing that in our sleep. It was the amazing climactic moment of an amazing, amazing show. And I can just listen to that morning dew over and over and over again. And I just love that ending. So. You know, kind of a good way, I think, to wind down today's show. I'm getting the signal from our producer, Dan, that somehow without a whole lot to talk about, I've still managed to fill up an hour of time. And I guess that's not that hard to do when you're talking about the Grateful Dead and marijuana and other good stuff like that. Next week, I will not be here. I'm taking a much needed and well-earned vacation with my family off to the Wilds of Glacier National Park. We'll have a chance to hang out with my kids, still get them to listen to a little Grateful Dead, but be listening to a little of their music too, because that's what you do on family vacations. But I will be back the week of August 21st, and there forward we will have many more good shows, lining up some guests for the fall, selecting some more Grateful Dead shows that we wanna feature, and other good things. Next week on August 14th. We will be replaying one of our fan favorite shows. A year or two ago we were very blessed to be able to have David Gans on our show and David is a huge member of the Grateful Dead family, one of the co-hosts of the Tales from the Golden Road with Gary Lambert and we are going to replay my interview, Jim Marty and I interviewed him and we're going to replay that interview next week and if you didn't hear it the first time around I would... very much encourage you to listen to it because there are few people alive who know more about the Grateful Dead than David Gans and he was great answering a lot of our questions and just shared some good stuff with us. So look forward to that. I will look forward to talking to you again in two weeks everybody from now until then. Have a great time. Listen to some dead. Be safe. Enjoy the rest of the days between and enjoy your cannabis responsibly. Thank you.