"Marijuana Dispensaries and Predictive Football: A Quirky Comparison" Larry is excited about Michigan's win over Alabama and in tribute to their upcoming January 8th college football championship game against Washington he features a Grateful Dead concert from January 8th, 1978. He detail the song "Jack Straw" and its history, especially focusing on the singer distribution due to Jerry Garcia's laryngitis during the San Diego show.
"Marijuana Dispensaries and Predictive Football: A Quirky Comparison"
Larry is excited about Michigan's win over Alabama and in tribute to their upcoming January 8th college football championship game against Washington he features a Grateful Dead concert from January 8th, 1978. He detail the song "Jack Straw" and its history, especially focusing on the singer distribution due to Jerry Garcia's laryngitis during the San Diego show.
The conversation veers into the significance of the songs "Lazy Lightning" and "Supplication" within the Grateful Dead's repertoire, reminiscing about experiencing these songs live. It briefly touches on personal events, birthdays, and music preferences.
The host humorously correlates the predicted football game winner to the number of Grateful Dead performances and marijuana dispensaries in Michigan and Washington. They discuss cannabis-related legislation and the market dynamics in these states, concluding with light-hearted references to personal travels and cannabis availability across regions.
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Grateful Dead
January 8, 1978
Golden Hall Community Concourse
San Diego, CA
Jerry has laryngitis so he did not sing
Donna filled in for him
INTRO: Jack Straw
Track #2
0:07 – 1:38
Not on any studio album. Featured on Europe ‘72
First time played: October 19, 1971, Minneapolis (Keith Godchaux’s first show)
Last played: July 8, 1995, Soldier Field, Chicago
Total times played = 476 (No. 11 on list of all time songs played)
SHOW No. 1: Lazy Lightning>Supplication
Track #8: 3:00 – end and then straight into
Track #9: 0:00 – 1:15
DAVID DODD: The pair of songs was recorded on the Kingfish album, with Bob Weir as a member of the band. Barlow notes that he wrote the song in Mill Valley in October 1975. The two tracks opened the album, which was released in March 1976.
The Grateful Dead first played the pair in concert on June 3, 1976, at the Paramount Theater in Portland, Oregon. That show also included the first performances of “Might As Well,” “Samson and Delilah,” and “The Wheel.” “Lazy Lightning” was always followed in concert by “Supplication,” and the final performance of the two songs took place on Halloween, 1984, at the Berkeley Community Theater.
“Supplication” was played by itself, according to DeadBase X, on one occasion subsequently, although it was also played as an instrumental jam more frequently over the years. The final “Supplication” was played 597 shows after the last “Lazy Lightning>Supplication,” on May 22, 1993 at the Shoreline Amphitheatre in Mountain View, California. Interestingly, “Supplication” was played one other time separately from “Lazy Lightning,” on September 24, 1976, when it was sandwiched in the middle of a “Playing in the Band.”
a very strong case could be made that “Supplication” is no more a separate song from “Lazy Lightning” than “Sunshine Daydream” is from “Sugar Magnolia.” It’s a coda, carrying forward the same themes—only the form of the verse has changed.
Lazy Lightning – 111 total times played
Supplication – 123 total times played
SHOW No. 2: Estimated Prophet
Track #14
2:35 – 4:15
Weir/Barlow
Released on Terrapin Station released on July 27, 1977 (first studio album released by the band after it returned to live touring after its 1975 hiatus.
DAVID DODD: “Estimated Prophet” was first performed by the Grateful Dead on February 26, 1977, at the Swing Auditorium in San Bernardino, California. The Dead also premiered “Terrapin Station” at that show. They played it 390 times in the years that followed, with the longest time between performances being 15 shows—mostly it stayed at the every third or fourth show rank. Its final performance was on June 28, 1995, at The Palace in Auburn Hills, Michigan. It appeared on Terrapin Station, released July 27, 1977.
Blair Jackson quotes Weir, discussing the song, in his biography of the band: “According to Weir, he and Barlow wrote the song from the perspective of a crazy, messianic zealot, a type which one invariably encounters in Deadhead crowds now and again. As Weir explains: ‘The basis of it is this guy I see at nearly every backstage door. There’s always some guy who’s taken a lot of dope and he’s really bug-eyed, and he’s having some kind of vision. He’s got a rave he’s got to deliver.’ “
This is one of those songs, and there are quite a number of them in the Dead’s repertoire, in which a not-entirely-sympathetic character is brought to life, and, in the course of being brought to life, is made more sympathetic. I’ve always thought this was a big strong suit of theire songs, whether in “Wharf Rat” or in “Jack Straw”; whether in “Candyman” or “Friend of the Devil.” Not only is it a recurring trope in the lyrics, but I think it is key to understanding the whole body of the songs, and perhaps literature generally.
SHOW No. 3: The Other One
Track # 16
13:30 – 15:07
The imagery conjured up by Bob Weir, in his portion of the suite, “That’s It for the Other One,” on Anthem of the Sun, is clearly and intentionally a psychedelic ode to the Pranksters and all that entailed. Whether the singer was “escapin’ through the lily fields,” or “tripping through the lily fields,” or “skipping through the lily fields” (all versions of the line sung by Weir at various points, according to several extremely careful listeners), the fact is that it was akin to Alice’s rabbit hole, because of where it led.
“The bus came by and I got on...that’s when it all began.”
That line captures so much, in so many different ways, in so few words, that it is a model of what poetry can do—over time, and in a wide variety of circumstances, the line takes on a wide spectrum of association and meaning.
The Dead, of course, were quite literally on THE bus, along with Cowboy Neal (see earlier blog entry on “Cassidy”) and Ken Kesey and Ken Babbs and Mountain Girl and many others whose names are legend among our tribe. What must that have been like? Surely, worthy of a song or two. And Weir came up with a couple of winners, between “The Other One” and “Cassidy.”
There is something wonderfully cartoonish about the scenes described in the lyrics. A “Spanish lady” hands the singer a rose, which then starts swirling around and explodes—kind of like Yosemite Sam left holding a lit firecracker, leaving a smoking crater of his mind. The police arrest him for having a smile on his face despite the bad weather—clearly, this kid is doing something illegal. Weir’s interview with David Gans (along with Phil Lesh) cited in The Complete Annotated Grateful Dead Lyrics refers to a particular incident:
Gans: Now, I remember a version from a little bit earlier, maybe late in ’67, you had a different set of lyrics; the first verse is “the heat come ‘round and busted me”...and then there was a second verse that was about “the heat in the jail weren’t very smart,” or somethin’ like that...
Weir: Yeah, that was after my little...
Lesh: Water balloon episode?
Weir: I got him good. I was on the third floor of our place in the Haight-Ashbury. And there was this cop who was illegally searching a car belonging to a friend of ours, down on the street—the cops used to harass us every chance they got. They didn’t care for the hippies back then. And so I had a water balloon, and what was I gonna do with this water balloon? Come on.
Lesh: Just happened to have a water balloon, in his hand... Ladies and gentlemen...
Weir: And so I got him right square on the head, and...
Lesh: A prettier shot you never saw.
Weir: ...and he couldn’t tell where it was comin’ from, but then I had to go and go downstairs and walk across the street and just grin at him...and sorta rub it in a little bit.
Gans: Smilin’ on a cloudy day. I understand now.
Weir: And at that point, he decided to hell with due process of law, this kid’s goin’ to jail.
So, as to the debut. If we take Weir and Lesh at their word, that the first performance of the song as it now stands coincided with the night Neal Cassady died, in the early morning hours of February 4, 1968. And sure enough, there is a performance of “The Other One” on February 3, 1968, whose verses correspond to the verses as we all know them, for the first time, at the Crystal Ballroom in Portland, Oregon. The song was a fixture in the repertoire from then on, performed at least 586 times that we know of. The only year in which it was not listed as being performed was 1975, the hiatus year.
Part of the suite of songs, That’s It For The Other One from Anthem of the Sun. Made up of four sections: "Cryptical Envelopment", "Quadlibet for Tenderfeet", "The Faster We Go, the Rounder We Get" (the part everyone knows as “the other one”), and "We Leave the Castle". Like other tracks on the album, is a combination of studio and live performances mixed together to create the final product.
appears that way on Anthem of the Sun, bracketed by Garcia’s “Cryptical Envelopment.” But it stands alone most of the time in performance—“Cryptical” was dropped completely from 1973 through 1984, reappeared for five performances in 1985 (the 20th anniversary period—it was broken out following a lapse of 791 shows at the June 16, 1985 Greek Theater show (I WAS THERE!!) in Berkeley), then disappeared again for the remainder of the band’s career
"Cryptical Envelopment" is one of the few Grateful Dead songs with lyrics written by Garcia. It was performed from 1967 to 1971 (when it was then dropped), and brought back for a few performances in 1985. Post-Grateful Dead bands such as Dead & Company have returned to performing the song, sometimes as a standalone track separate from the rest of the suite.
"Quadlibet for Tenderfeet" is a short jam section linking "Cryptical Envelopment" and "The Faster We Go, the Rounder We Get". Transitions between studio and live performances are very audible during this section.
One of the few Grateful Dead songs to have lyrics written by Weir, "The Faster We Go, the Rounder We Get" became one of the Dead's most-played songs (being performed a known 586 times[2]) and most popular vehicles for improvisation, with some performances reaching 30+ minutes in length. The song's lyrics reference the influence of the Merry Pranksters and in particular Neal Cassady.[2] Additionally, the line "the heat came 'round and busted me for smilin' on a cloudy day" refers to a time Weir was arrested for throwing a water balloon at a cop.[2] This section ends with a reprise of "Cryptical Envelopment".
The only Grateful Dead composition written by Tom Constanten, "We Leave the Castle" is an avant-garde piece featuring prepared piano and other studio trickery.[
While the "We Leave the Castle" portion of the song was never performed live by the band, the first three sections were all featured in concert to differing extents. "Cryptical Envelopment", written and sung by Jerry Garcia, was performed from 1967 to 1971, when it was then dropped aside from a select few performances in 1985. "The Faster We Go, the Rounder We Get", written by Bill Kreutzmann and Bob Weir and sung by Weir, became one of the band's most frequently performed songs in concert (usually denoted as simply "The Other One").
The Other one– performed 549 times
First played: Oct. 31, 1967 at Winterland, S.F.
Last played: July 8, 1995, Soldier Field, Chicago
That’s It For The Other One – performed 79 times
First played: October 22, 1967 at Winterland, S.F.
Last played:
Cryptical Envelopment – performed 73 times
First played: Oct. 21, 1967 at Winterland, S.F.
Last played: Sept. 3, 1985 – Starlight Theater, K.C.
SHOW No. 4: Truckin’
Track # 17
4:22 – 6:03
The lyrics were written under pressure, in the studio, during the recording of American Beauty (Nov. 1970) (released as a single backed by Ripple in Jan. 1971), with Hunter running back and forth with hastily-written verses that somehow, despite the fact that were purpose-written on the spot, seem to have some pretty good staying power. There are rumors that he originally wrote “Garlands of neon and flashing marquees out on Main Street” as an intentionally hard-to-sing line, just to enjoy watching Weir try to wrap his mouth around them, eventually relenting and substituting “arrows of neon,” just to make it possible to sing.
The music credit is shared by Jerry Garcia, Bob Weir, and Phil Lesh. Hunter gets the credit for the lyrics. And Hunter took the bare bones outline of some of the band’s adventures and misadventures and fleshed them out with memorable features, highlighting their trips around the country with specific references to places and occurrences. In the process, he came up with a chorus consisting of a couple of phrases that are now, eternally, in the cultural psyche: “Sometimes the light’s all shining on me / Other times I can barely see. Lately it occurs to me / What a long strange trip it’s been.”
At some point, Hunter was accused of using a cliché in that final phrase of the chorus. When something you make up becomes such a commonly-used turn of phrase that your own invention of it is accused of being cliché, that’s some measure of wordsmithing success, I would say.
Truckin’” was first performed on August 18, 1970, at the Fillmore West. The show opened with an acoustic set, and “Truckin’” was the first song. Other firsts that night included “Ripple,” “Brokedown Palace,” and “Operator.” The song was performed 532 times, placing it at number 8 in the list of most-played songs, with the final performance on July 6, 1995, at Riverport Amphitheatre in Maryland Heights, Missouri.
OUTRO: Johnny B. Goode
Track #19
1:10 – 2:51
Johnny B. Goode" is a song by American musician Chuck Berry, written and sung by Berry in 1958. Released as a single in 1958, it peaked at number two on the Hot R&B Sides chart and number eight on its pre-Hot 100 chart.[1] The song remains a staple of early and later rock music.
"Johnny B. Goode" is considered one of the most recognizable songs in the history of popular music. Credited as "the first rock & roll hit about rock & roll stardom",[2] it has been covered by various other artists and has received several honors and accolades. These include being ranked 33rd on Rolling Stones's 2021 version[3] and 7th on the 2004 version of the "500 Greatest Songs of All Time"[2][4] and included as one of the 27 songs on the Voyager Golden Record, a collection of music, images, and sounds designed to serve as a record of humanity.
Written by Berry in 1955, the song is about a semi-literate "country boy" from the New Orleans area, who plays a guitar "just like ringing a bell", and who might one day have his "name in lights".[5] Berry acknowledged that the song is partly autobiographical and that the original lyrics referred to Johnny as a "colored boy", but he changed it to "country boy" to ensure radio play.[6] As well as suggesting that the guitar player is good, the title hints at autobiographic elements, because Berry was born at 2520 Goode Avenue, in St. Louis.[5]
The song was initially inspired by Johnnie Johnson, the regular piano player in Berry's band,[7] but developed into a song mainly about Berry himself. Johnson played on many recordings by Berry, but for the Chess recording session Lafayette Leake played the piano, along with Willie Dixon on bass and Fred Below on drums.[5][8] The session was produced by Leonard and Phil Chess.[8] The guitarist Keith Richards later suggested that the song's chords are more typical of compositions written for piano than for guitar.[9]
The opening guitar riff of "Johnny B. Goode" borrows from the opening single-note solo on Louis Jordan's "Ain't That Just Like a Woman" (1946), played by guitarist Carl Hogan
A cover version is featured in the film Back to the Future (1985), when the lead character Marty McFly, played by actor Michael J. Fox, performs it at a high school dance.
Played 283 times, almost always as an encore or show closer (back in the days where there were no encores)
First played on Sept. 7, 1969 at Family Dog on the Great Highway, S.F.
Last played on April 5, 1995 at Birmingham-Jefferson Civic Center Coliseum in Birmingham, AL
Larry (01:00.954)
Hello everyone and welcome to another episode of the Deadhead Cannabis Show. I'm Larry Mishkin of Mishkin Law in Chicago. Today is Monday, January 8th, 2024. So I hope everyone is having a great New Year so far. Today is another special day just like last week on January 1st was because as I predicted using my failsafe method, Michigan did defeat Alabama in the national semifinal game and they are going to play in the championship game tonight. I'm happy to report.
that good friend of the show and recent guest, Alex Wellens, will be at the game. And if we're lucky, we may be able to get a report from him later. Not tonight, but probably for next week. I mean, we'll get to that game in a few minutes because we go right back to the predicting method and we'll see how it shakes out for Michigan this time around. At any rate, today we are celebrating a show from January 8th, 1978, at the Golden Hall Community Concourse in San Diego, California.
Uh, the grateful dad were playing there that day. Jerry has laryngitis Donna filling in for him where she can. Bill Graham's birthday. What can go wrong? Let's dive right into the beginning of the show.
Larry (02:25.818)
Everybody knows Jack Straw. Everybody loves Jack Straw. It's a classic Grateful Dead opening tune. Sometimes it makes its way into other parts of the first set, almost never into the second set. It was played by the Dead 476 times, making it number 11 on their list of all-time songs played. First being performed on October 19th, 1971 at the famous show in Minneapolis, Keith Gowchow's first show with a lot of other breakouts. And it was last played on July 8th, 1995 at Soldier Field in.
Chicago never came out on a studio album was featured on Europe 72, which is where it's fame and popularity really took off. And, uh, we've talked about Jack straw a little bit because, um, it's a Bob Weir tune. And when the song first came out, Bob sang all of the, uh, the verses. I just shot the watch man and, uh, all those other verses that Jerry sang for years and years when he split the singing duties on the song with Bob.
And then somewhere in, and I'm sorry, I don't have the notes in front of me again, 73 or 74, last time around we actually mentioned the specific show. And I'll find it. Uh, Jerry stepped up to the mic and he started singing the Jerry parts, Bobby saying the Bobby parts. And it was that way forever more. And this show going down in 1978, uh, would certainly be within that period when it was the Jerry Bobby tandem. But as we mentioned at the outset, Jerry had laryngitis.
So Jerry was not to be singing on this version of Jack Straw, unfortunately. And instead, we had Donna Jean filling in. Donna Jean did not sing the parts that Jerry would normally sing, like the, I just shot the Watchman or anything like that. But what we did get was a lot of Bobby singing, some very nice Donna in the backgrounds, and some absolutely blazing guitar from Garcia. And,
which are going to find about this show. And one of the things that really directed me to this show, because quite frankly, there was also a show on this date in 1966. One of the first acid tests where the Grateful Dead played is the house band as the Grateful Dead, and not as the Warlocks or any other combination that they played under. And the recording of the show is fantastic. There's only about six or seven songs where they really get through the whole thing. And...
Larry (04:51.898)
There's all sorts of great banter from the microphones and just a room full of people just dosed out of their minds. And everybody's having a great time. The band members aren't really taking it all that seriously. They count down into one of the songs and Billy has a big case of the giggles and can't get the beat going on the drum, just wild stuff. And it was really a lot of fun. We would have gone straight to that. But unfortunately, the recordings from the time being what they are.
Although you can hear the music perfectly, you can't really hear very many of the lyrics and it's hard to pick up a lot of the sounds. So we'll see if technology doesn't help improve that for future years. But today we're going with this show from San Diego. And one of the other strange things about it is that the Grateful Dead did not play a lot of shows in the month of January. In fact, it might be one of the months with the fewest number of shows played. November was always another big month for not having a lot of Grateful Dead shows.
scheduled. During this period of time you might catch them on the west coast for Chinese New Years depending on when that fell. Mardi Gras obviously coming up in February, but they might pop in for a couple of shows at the Civic Center, the Bill Graham Center, sometimes over in Berkeley, sometimes over in Oakland, a number of different places where they might pop in. But no regular touring in the month of January for the most part. They did the New Year shows and then
Larry (06:19.526)
He was always still touring around with the Jerry Garcia band, so it wasn't like he ever really took time off. You know what I'm saying. Here we go on a show from January 8th. They come out and they open with Jack Straw. We love it. It's a great tune. Lots of other fun things. On the rest of these tunes that we're going to play, A, again, you'll note that they're almost all Bobby tunes because Jerry's not singing, and B, that Jerry's not singing. You have a real chance to focus in on Bobby.
You get a little bit of Don in the background on one of the later tunes. Phil even pops in for a couple of seconds. And you can hear him bellowing in the background. And it's all just a lot of good fun. And Jerry would come back a couple of nights later with a scratchy voice, but with a voice nonetheless. But with that being said, let's dive in to another song from this show. And this is one of my, one of my more favorite tunes, Bobby Combination Tunes.
that just never got played all that much after I started seeing them. But let's go ahead and listen to it for a minute. Nice lazy lightning transition into supplication, Dan.
Larry (07:38.542)
So according to David Dodd, who's done a lot of writing on the Grateful Dead and their songs and some of the meanings of the lyrics from their songs, Lazy Lightning and Supplication were recorded as a connected pair on the Kingfish album with Bob Weir as a member of the band. John Barlow wrote that he wrote the song in Mill Valley, California, in October, 75. The two tracks opened the Kingfish album, which was released in March, 1976. Kingfish was just another.
side project that Bobby worked, played in for a while in the seventies. Um, not one of his, uh, more long lasting, uh, associations by any means, but still, you know, if you're a Bobby fan and you like to hear Bobby playing with different musicians in different combinations, uh, Kingfish is a nice collection, a nice addition to anyone's collection of Bob, we are related, uh, music, Grateful Dead and otherwise. Um,
So the Grateful Dead first played the Perrin concert on June 3rd, 1976 at the Paramount Theater in Portland, Oregon. That show also included the first performances of Might as Well, Samson and Delilah, and The Wheel. So we're getting a lot of these types of shows. 1971 we talked about, and I was showing 76, when it seems like if you're there on the right night, although it may not feel like it at the time, because the boys are coming out and dumping a whole bunch of brand new songs that you've never heard, but certainly, you know, in terms of Grateful Dead history.
uh... you know and were you there type of stuff that's really cool uh... you know and who knows maybe some of these tunes are so good on first hearing uh... that the deadheads uh... want to come back again and again which is what they all did anyway but uh... those are all great tunes that were paired up with it that night uh... and uh... a lot of fun so that's when they first played it uh... was always followed in concert by supplications the lazy lightning and the final performance of the two songs together took place
on October 31st, 1984 Halloween at the Berkeley Community Center in Berkeley, California. Supplication was played by itself according to Dead Base X on a few occasions, one subsequent, although it was also played as an instrumental jam more frequently over the years. The final supplication was played 597 shows after the last Lazy Lightning supplication on May 22nd, 1993 at the Shoreline Amphitheater in Mountain View, California.
Larry (10:03.786)
Interestingly, supplication was played one other time, separate from Lazy Lightning, on September 24th, 1976, when it was sandwiched in the middle of playing in the band. A very strong case could be made that supplication is no more a separate song from Lazy Lightning than is Sunshine Daydream from Sugar Magnolia. It's a code of carrying forward the same things, same themes, only the form of the verse has changed. Now,
I didn't get a whole lot of Lazy Lightning supplication because as we heard it was played into 1984 by Halloween, but then it was dropped after that. And I did hear it one time in 83 in Rochester and one or two other times, maybe once in Morgantown, West Virginia. I'd have to double check the set list on that. But it was always a fun combination. And
My, my, my good buddy, Tommy and I loved it. And we always had a little bit of fun with it and joking around and, uh, you know, just sophomore type of humor for college kids, listening to the grateful dead. Uh, but you know, it was one of those songs that if they started playing, we would just give each other a knowing wink and, uh, move right along with our day. Um, but it's nice how the dead kind of have these songs that go together because then when they do play one without the other, it's news, right? Like, uh, the fire on the mountain.
that gets played at the pyramids in Egypt without the Scarlet Pagonias leading into it. It may be one of my favorite fire on the mountains of all time. It's not uncommon for the dead on those occasions when they choose to do it to open up a set or even a show with Sugar Magnolia and save the Sunshine Daydream, typically for the very end of the second set to kind of complete their Sugar Magnolia Sunshine Daydream show sandwich, as it were. But...
We didn't really have a whole lot of that. It was always pretty much lazy lightning into supplication, unless one was not gonna proceed or follow the other like they talk about, like David Dodd talked about with the supplication sandwich in the middle of playing in the band from the main version of it over to the play and reprise. So lazy lightning was played a total of 111 times, supplication was played a total of 123 times. So.
Larry (12:25.85)
That's a few more extra than what David Dodd told us about, but I think he was just highlighting some of the bigger examples of when they weren't played together. But nevertheless, after 1984, they were no more, and the Deadheads were all the worst for it because we really lost out on a great musical number that was always a lot of fun, would almost always show up near the end of the first set, and was just a great dance tune.
you know, if you were in the right frame of mind that time, a great time for intercontemplation and, uh, or inner contemplation, I should say. Um, and, uh, you know, taking stock of the space around you and all your brothers and sisters of dead has of the dead head world, uh, out there dancing with you. And, uh, just really making it a special time and, uh, lazy lightning and supplication were certainly part of that. Uh,
We're certainly part of that celebration, no question about it. There's not a whole lot going on the music world right now. Everybody did their New Year's shows. Now we're in the time of year when everybody starts planning to go down to Mexico. There's gonna be another big Deadhead type celebration down in Mexico, I think later this month, or maybe at the beginning of February, with a lot of acts that aren't dead and co.
Um, and Hey, look, Mexico is a beautiful place to be in the winter. And if you got fun people down there who are going to be, uh, singing and, uh, having a good time with you, um, why not? That's a great way to go. And, uh, they'll be doing that. I think fish, actually, I don't know if fish is doing another one of their plane in the sand kind of, uh, things this year, cause they got so much going on with the sphere and fish fest and, uh, all the other stuff that they do on an annual basis. Um, but.
You know, the jam cruises are heading out, and I don't know if good buddy Kevin is going on one this year, even though he managed to snake his way onto one last year, and still got out for two shows for New Year's at Madison Square Garden, my all-time hero, for a married man with young kids. He has exceptional skills and coordination in attending these shows and filling me in on all the fun details that I might have missed if I was not able to make it myself. So always good to have somebody like that who can...
Larry (14:46.638)
who can bring you up to speed with what was going on. And he's certainly the man for that. Otherwise, you know, I find this to be a good time of year when I go back and I lean heavily into my Dave's picks and Dick's picks and boxed sets and just kind of start pulling out random dead stuff that I haven't listened to in a while and starting to go through it. And it's always great because if it's a show or an album or anything that I've listened to before, as soon as I put it on, I'm instantly taken back into it.
I know what I'm listening to. I'm very excited about it. And my first thought is why the hell aren't I doing this more often than I'm actually doing it, which is still pretty much a lot. Um, you know, for new years this year, uh, had an agreement with the wife that, uh, although we could play the, uh, farewell to winterland 78, 79 countdown with, uh, Bill Graham coming in on the, um, uh, giant lit joint and, uh, the fun countdown.
And then a few songs after that just because to me, that's one of the all time great New Year's introductions that the Dead did over the years. Into Sugar Mag, not holding off the sunshine daydream then until later, followed by awesome Scarlet Fire. Many people think it's one of the best ever and I'm no position to argue with that. It is a great Scarlet Fire and it's always fun. But we had to work a lot of other stuff and then we did and it was nice.
10,000 Maniacs, Little Dire Straits, some Joni Mitchell, lots of good stuff out there to really be able to sink our teeth into for a little bit later in the evening, playing the Fish Animals album, which I've gotten, not Fish, excuse me, Pink Floyd, Animals album, which I've gotten back into big time since good buddy Rob took me to see the...
Larry (16:40.814)
Time out, brain fart.
Larry (16:48.762)
What's this guy's name? Okay.
Larry (16:58.414)
Since good buddy Rob took me to the Salt Shed this spring to see Les Claypool and his frog brigade, easy to say, huh? And in the midst of their show they did a complete cover of Pink Floyd's Animals and I was so enamored of it that I've been back listening to the album a lot and I find that at dinner parties that go late into the evening after everyone's had a couple of drinks or a couple of tokes or a couple of both or whatever else they might be doing, it makes for interesting background music.
Not too loud to drown out the conversation, but just enough that everybody can hear it. And if you want to focus in on it for a minute, you know what it is and you can really get a lot out of it. But yeah, it's all good fun. We also have a couple of birthdays that I'd like to give some shout outs to. Today, actually, January 8th is Bill Graham's birthday. Bill, unfortunately, is no longer with us, but we can't forget that he's the guy
uh... you know kinda stirred the drink if you will on the whole jam band scene and uh... you know really created it so much of it out there with his philmore and philmore east and philmore west and all the other venues winterland that he owned and managed and ran and all the shows that he produced up and down the west coast and even some on the east coast for a while uh... and he's so much responsible for the whole scene with the grateful dad and encouraging the deadheads and the
that it almost doesn't seem right or justified to honor him with his band given name of Uncle Bobo. So instead, how about if we just give a birthday shout out and a quick thought of memory to Bill Graham and we still miss you Bill. There's so many of us that never really got to know you, but you're forever memorialized and so much that's been written about that scene and that time and especially within the annals of the Grateful Dead and
you know, everything about them that you opened the door for and allowed them to become who they become. So happy birthday shout out to Bill Graham. Also just a couple of quick personal ones, cool cousin Brent and my lovely niece Lily both turned their respective ages just a couple of days ago. And my brother Stephen in St. Louis in a couple of days is having a birthday. So really hope that everyone in January has great birthdays. Everyone has a great year.
Larry (19:26.15)
There's so much good music that is out there and that will be coming out there over the next coming year that you gotta go see it. You gotta make the effort to see it. That's where good buddy Alex Wellens comes in because he's always leading the charge and once he's out there doing it, it's kind of hard not to follow in his footsteps even though I will not be following in his footsteps of going to Houston for the football game. But my excuse is I'm going to Atlanta to watch with my granddaughter. So you know, anyone who doesn't like that can go suck eggs. At least that's what I'm saying and I'm sticking to that story.
back to our show and now we start to get into a part of it where things really heat up on the musical front into the second set past the first couple of opening tunes and we get to an estimated profit that I think is one of the best I've heard in a long time if not ever and certainly one off of Live Dead Recordings but they really crank on this and just listen to Jerry Goh.
Larry (20:38.626)
Estimated profit is a weird Barlow tune. It was released on Terrapin station, which was released on July 27th, 1977, making it the first studio album released by the band after they had returned to live touring from their 1975 hiatus. And again, turning to David Dodd, uh, for some background on the song. He tells us that estimated profit was first performed by the grateful dead on February 26th, 1977 at the swing auditorium.
uh... in san bernardino california and those of listen to this show of course that was also uh... the day that the grateful dead first performed uh... terrapin station and so uh... they were they were going hard from that album and uh... the terrapin station tune uh... estimated profit and uh... estimated profit became a favorite was played by the dead three hundred ninety times uh... over the course of the history of the band
was the longest time between performances being no more than 15 shows. Mostly it stayed at the every third or fourth show rank. Its final performance was on June 28th, 1995 at the Palace in Auburn Hills, Michigan. And we love that song. In fact, the first time I ever saw The Grateful Dead with good buddy Mike in Ventura County on the beach, it was just a beautiful day. Here I am seeing a quintessential California jam band.
uh... got some great mushrooms going on a great crowd everybody's doing a good time and these guys come out and start singing the song that they didn't really know yet and talking about california on the burning shore and we're like you know a hundred yards from the shoreline it or seemed like we were that close and that to really spoke to me at that moment like wow they're seeing this on the news is a song about the whole california scene and uh... how amazing is this and
We have Blair Jackson quoting Bob Weir discussing the song, saying that according to Weir, he and Barlow wrote the song from the perspective of a crazy messianic zealot, a type which once invariably encounters, one invariably encounters in deadhead crowds now and again. As Weir explains, the basis of it is this guy, I see it nearly every backstage door. There's always some guy who's taken a lot of dope and he's really bug eyed and he's having some kind of vision. He's got to rave. He's got to deliver.
Larry (23:04.886)
and you can hear Bobby saying that and Chuckling right along with him. This is one of those songs and there are quite a number of them in the dead's repertoire in which a not entirely sympathetic character is brought to life. And in the course of being brought to life is made more sympathetic. I've always thought that this was a big, strong suit of their songs, whether in war, Fred or Jack straw, whether in candy man or friend of the devil, not only is it a recurring trope in the lyrics, but it is a key to understanding the whole body of the songs and perhaps literature generally. So
Again, quoting David Dodd there, I'm not nearly that quotable. And my opinions of these songs tend to be more along the lines of, they really fucking jam and I love listening to them. And everybody can kind of interpret it from there however they want. But I cannot argue with anything that David says about estimated profit. I always enjoyed it. And for a long period of time after I started seeing the shows in the mid 80s, the either Scarlet Fire,
or China writer into estimated eyes. So you're China writer, estimated eyes, or China eyes for short, or just to eliminate everything because we all knew what you meant in between. And that was always fun. I love Eyes of the World, and I love it anywhere and anytime they play it, as I do estimated profit, but they really do go hand in hand very nicely with a great transition. And never disappointed to hear a strong estimated profit, and hope you like this version of it as well.
uh... because it just uh... i think really speaks out and is fun to listen to uh... okay back to football last week we matched up michigan and alabama for the national semifinal game which was played a week ago today on january first and at the time we picked michigan as the winner
Because the grateful debt had played more shows in Michigan by a large margin. I think it was something like 32 to five and Michigan blew them Alabama away in the number of dispensaries in the state. So we're just south of a thousand to four medical dispensaries that weren't quite yet open. And whether you believe in that stuff or not, Michigan did win and held on with a big play at the end defense stood tall.
Larry (25:21.87)
and strong and stuff Jason Milro on the final play and we all celebrated and jumped up and down and had a great time. So damn it, I'm going right back to this. Worked for Mike Royko with the X-Cub factor. I say it's gonna work for us with the grateful dead cannabis factor is what we'll call it. So let's take a look and see how the states of Michigan and Washington match up with one another under these very, very select handpicked, almost cherry picked criteria.
uh, that I'm using because for those of you listening to this, uh, drop during the day today, uh, this big game is tonight. I want to say it's seven 30 Eastern time. I think is the kickoff. I think it's on ESPN. Like I say, I'll be in Atlanta sitting on a couch watching with my son and his father-in-law and maybe my wife, if she wants to sit down and watch it, certainly my daughter-in-law, and maybe even if we're lucky, my granddaughter for a few minutes, although the trade-off is when she's in the room, we can't yell very loudly, which is hard to do when you're watching.
a football game of that magnitude. But nevertheless, and I digress, so Grateful Dead shows. Well, this one, this time things get a little bit closer for Michigan, which still clocks in at 32 Grateful Dead shows. That number wasn't going to change. And Washington is quite a jump up on the five that Alabama registered. The Grateful Dead found themselves in the state of Washington playing concerts on 28 occasions. So an edge for Michigan, but a very narrow edge there.
So now we have to turn to the other side of the predictive equation and see how both states do with respect to the number of marijuana dispensaries. Now working in Washington state's favor here is that it was one of the first two states along with Colorado way back in 2014 to welcome in the concept of adult use. 21 or older, not a medical patient anymore. All you have to do is show an ID that you're 21 or older.
It's a model that's been adopted by over 30 states now, with a large number of others close behind and ready to dive into the pool with them. So if nothing else, Washington gets extra bonus points for that. And we will certainly recognize that any time and any way because along with Colorado, they were willing to kind of take the plunge and see exactly where the federal government would go with it. And we are eternally grateful to them for doing so.
Larry (27:46.434)
because it allowed all of our other states to follow. And now we can smoke in Illinois, in Missouri, in New York, so many other states, Nevada. It's just a wonderful thing. And those of us that enjoy marijuana and would prefer that over other types of stimulants or intoxicants, if you will, such as alcohol, I'll take the marijuana all day long. And the more states that I'm allowed to do it in, the happier it makes me. And...
you know, look forward to obviously California and just all of the great places that are out there. So, you know, Washington did us all a big favor by being willing to lead the charge and along with Colorado pushing the issue hard enough to get the Cole Memorandum issued by Barack Obama's Justice Department, William Cole, who was the assistant to Eric Holder at the time. And the Cole Memorandum was very famous. The federal government told the states, if you're going to have adult use and if you're going to make strict rules and...
robustly enforce them and all this other stuff, then we will stay out and we will let you guys do business. And it was the Kola Memorandum that allowed investors to feel confident enough to really start to pour money into the industry knowing that absent certain federal enforcement priorities such as sales across state lines or diversion to the black market or sales to children or the use of weapons or violence in any of the transactions.
the feds were going to basically stay out of it, which meant that the risk of having assets seize real estate or cash or anything which would affect an investment or certainly the collateral for that investment was no longer a serious concern. And that may have single-handedly the coal memorandum really been the driving force in getting the adult use industry up and running. So Washington does get credit for that.
Michigan gets credit because they're the home of the Wolverines. They grow really, really great marijuana and they're very close to Illinois. So not too far for a quick trip over there from time to time where we find that some products are just really good and maybe the best in the Midwest and certainly priced in a manner that is very fan friendly. And if you're ever traveling through Michigan and looking for some cannabis for your use while during your stay in the state, because again,
Larry (30:12.898)
You cannot take it across state lines. There's plenty of dispensaries around, from the west coast of the state, all the way back east to Ann Arbor, then on to Detroit, all the way up to the northern border, with the upper peninsula of, not with the upper peninsula, excuse me, strike timeout. We're gonna start that part over too.
Larry (30:39.898)
to the northern borders of Michigan where it meets up with the Upper Peninsula. You can buy marijuana in the state now. And Ann Arbor has always been a big, big home for the marijuana movement, John Sinclair movement after he was arrested just outside of Ann Arbor for two joints and was sentenced to life imprisonment and then had it reduced to some large number of years. And there were big protests and finally, a huge protest that was held in Ann Arbor with John Lennon coming and appearing. And
A number of other famous rock performers and social activists of the time came and gave speeches. And ultimately, Mr. Sinclair was let out of prison. And Hash Bash in Ann Arbor, which continues on or around April 1st to this day, and will be happening again this year, is largely based upon a celebration of Mr. Sinclair and the movement that helped secure his release from prison for the most ridiculous of reasons, simply having possession of two joints.
You would never throw anybody in prison for that long for having possession of two beers, which we can all agree are significantly more harmful to the body or even a bottle of alcohol. So these are all important things, but let's get back to business here. Dispensaries. Michigan still has just south of a thousand and around 990 total medical and adult combined. Washington clicks in at just about 700. So Michigan wins there again.
But I note that on both of these points for making these determinations, the numbers are a lot closer and Washington does get special props. But I have to believe if I'm gonna stick with my system and why wouldn't I when I wanna know with it, that based on what we see here on this information and these evaluations, that I'm gonna look for a Michigan victory tonight, but a much tougher battle. And rightfully so Washington's quarterback Michael Pennex is.
a strong arm. He may be one of the best passers, if not the best passer in college football, Jayden Davis at LSU notwithstanding. And, um, Hey, I'll be talking about it again next week, hopefully celebrating my Wolverines with a big national title championship, or otherwise mourning the fact that they had gotten that far and weren't able to get over the top. But according to the Grateful Dead Cannabis Index, it points to them having a successful night. So go blue and we will certainly hope so.
Larry (33:04.186)
But either way, and this could not matter the least bit about what the boys do on the football field, we're going to dive back into our show here from lovely San Diego, January 8th, 1978. And we get into another part of the show, following estimated, where the boys are still just really smoking and they will be through the end of the show from this point on. And they dive into a version of the other one.
which a lot of the people who have commented on this show indicate for them is the highlight and a number of people saying it's one of the best other ones that they had ever heard. And it is, it's just absolutely tremendous. So let's go ahead and take a quick listen to this.
Larry (34:16.089)
The other one is one of those songs that you hear a couple of notes. That's all it takes. In fact, when you're a newbie deadhead and you're sitting there trying to learn the songs, the other one is a big favor for you because it has very, very clear telltale sounds right at the very beginning. And when you hear that, uh, it just conjures up this imagery. Um, you know, best stated by, uh, Bob Weir in his portion of the suite. That's it for the other one. And. You know,
which was on the Anthem of the Sun album, the second album they came out with, and is clearly and intentionally a psychedelic ode to the Mary Pranksters, and all that entailed with Ken Kesey and the bus and further and Oregon and the acid tests, and whether the singer was escaping through the lily fields or tripping through the lily fields or even skipping through the lily fields, all versions of the line sung by We're at Various Points, according to several extremely careful listeners. The fact is that it was akin to Alice's rabbit hole
because of where it led. The bus came by and I got on, that's when it all began. The line captures so much in so many different ways and so few words. It's a model of what poetry can do over time. And in a wide variety of circumstances, the line takes on a wide spectrum of association and meaning. The dead, of course, were literally on the bus, along with Cowboy Neil, the driver, and Ken Kesey, and Ken Babbs, and Mountain Girl, and many others whose names are legend among our tribe.
What must it have been like? Surely worthy of a song or two, and we came up with a couple of winners and the other one in Cassidy. There's something really cartoonish about the scenes described in the lyrics. A Spanish lady hands the singer a rose, which then starts twirling around and explodes, kind of like Yosemite Sam left holding a lit firecracker. Leaving a smoking crater in his mind, the police arrest him for having a smile on his face despite the bad weather. Clearly this kid is doing something illegal.
Now in Weir's interview with David Gans along with Phil Lesch, cited in the complete annotated, grateful dead lyrics refers to this particular instant. And Gans says, now I remember a version from a little bit earlier, maybe late in 67, you had a different set of lyrics. The first verse is the heat comes around and busted me. And then there was a second verse that was about the heat in the jail. Word very smart or something like that. Weir says, yeah, that was after my little and Lesh says water balloon episode.
Larry (36:41.378)
We're says, well, I got him good. I was on the third floor of our place in the hate. And there was this cop who was illegally searching a car belonging to a friend of ours down on the street. The cops used to harass us every chance they got. They didn't care for the hippies back then. So I had a water balloon and what was I going to do with this water balloon? Come on. Les leads them on just happened to have a water balloon in his hand. Ladies and gentlemen, we're says, so I got him right square in the head and Les says a prettier shot you never saw.
We're continues and he couldn't tell where it was coming from. But then I had to go and go downstairs, walk across the street and just give them a goofy grin and sort of rub it in a little bit Gans. Ah, smiling on a cloudy day. I understand. And we're said at that point, he decided to hell with due process of law. This kid's going to jail. And that is one of my all time favorite grateful deadlines. And he came around and busted me for smiling on a cloudy day. Bob, we're, uh, is nothing if not.
a master craftsman and a agitator of all levels of authority even though he's now ironically grown into a little bit of an authority figure himself, certainly in the music world. That's what getting old and staying alive will do for you. So that's just kind of fun stuff that this is where these lyrics come from on this tune and this is what was going on. And so...
As to the debut, if we take Bob and fill it their word, the first performance of the song is it now stands coincided with the night that Neil Cassidy died in the early morning hours of February 4th, 1968. And sure enough, there is a performance of the other one on February 3rd, 1968, whose verses corresponded the verses as we now all know them for the first time at the Crystal Ballroom in Portland, Oregon. The suite was a fixture in the repertoire.
From then on, with the other one itself performed at least 586 times that we know of, the only year in which it was not listed as being performed was 1975, the hiatus year. So the other one itself, as we know it, what we just listened to, is part of that suite of songs for That's It from the Other One, from Anthem of the Sun, made up of four sections. Cryptical Envelopment, Quad Libet for tender feet, the faster we go, the rounder we get.
Larry (39:01.422)
That's the one that everybody knows as the other one. And we leave the castle. Like other tracks on the album, it's a combination of studio and live performances mixed together to create the final psychedelic, very trippy product. And it appears that way on the Anthem of the Sun, bracketed by Jerry's cryptical envelopment, which is the introduction singing part the other day we waited. But it stands alone most of the time. And cryptical was dropped from 1973.
uh... through nineteen eighty four appeared for five performances in nineteen eighty five which was the twentieth anniversary period uh... it was broken out uh... following a lapse of seven hundred ninety one shows on june sixteenth nineteen eighty five at the greek theater in berkeley i was there and had the pleasure of hearing it uh... they also played it uh... what turned out to be for the last time on uh... september third nineteen eighty five starlight theater in kansas city another show that i was lucky enough to be at
And it was just great stuff, but you know, we don't spend enough time talking about this full suite of songs and what it really is. So I thought a quick breakdown is always helpful in this circumstance. So. Cryptical involvement, the, the lead in Jerry part the other day we waited, the sky was dark and faded, uh, is one of the few grateful dead songs with the lyrics actually written by Garcia. Um, this one was performed from 1967 to 1971 when it was then dropped. We talked about coming back in 1985. Um,
Denning Company has played it a few times, but definitely, we all love it for the way Garcia played it. And if you listen to it on Anthem of the Sun, you do hear that part. First, Jerry singing the Cryptical Invelopment introduction. Then we get Quad Labette for Tenderfeet, which composing credit goes to Jerry, Billy, Phil, Pigpen, and Bobby. It's a short jam section linking Cryptical Invelopment and the faster we go, the rounder we get.
Transitions between studio and live performances are very audible during this section. And then we get into, the faster we go, the rounder we get. And that's one of the few Grateful Dead songs to have lyrics written by Weir as we talked about with his, the bus come by and I got all began with cowboy Neil at the wheel. And then the heat came around and busted me. And it's one of the most popular vehicles for improvisation. Played almost, we said 580 times or more.
Larry (41:28.098)
some performances reaching over 30 minutes in length. The song's lyrics reference the influence of the Merrick Pranksters and in particular Neil Cassidy. And then we all heard about the water balloon. And the section ends with a reprise then going back into cryptical envelopment. And then there's finally, We Leave the Castle, which was composed by Tom Constantin, who was the keyboard player for the Dead for about a two-year period from 68 and 69. And it's an
prepared piano and some other studio trickery that they were getting into. So while we leave the castle portion was, uh, the song was never performed live by the band, the first three sections were all featured in concert. To different extents. Cryptical was written and sung by Garcia's. We said 67 to 71 in the 95, the faster we go, the rounder we get became one of the band's most frequently performed songs in concert, uh, simply denoted as the other one, and if we just look at that, the other one we have almost.
uh... five hundred eighty times played in the first one on october thirty first sixty seven at winterland the last one on july eighth nineteen ninety five at their last show at soldier field in chicago uh... that's it for the other one the full suite uh... was only played a handful of times mostly back in uh... october september excuse me september october and through the end of nineteen sixty seven
Larry (42:55.394)
And then only a few more times after that. And then the cryptical, which we talked about, um, where Jerry kind of leads in, um, was first played in 1967 on October 21st at winter land in San Francisco. Played for the last time on September 3rd, 95 at the starlight theater in Kansas city, uh, for a total number of times of just under 70. So, you know, the other one is, is really a great tune.
I like that people say it got the name the other one because Alligator was the first original Grateful Dead tune that they were working on to put out on an album and at the same time they were working on this other song and rather than actually fully naming the song at that time they just kept referring to it as the other one. There was Alligator and then the other one. So this is the other one and it's a great second set piece and if you listen to the ones in the early 70s when Billy's doing all the drumming himself there's usually a three or four or five minute drum solo.
introduction to the song where you can tell he's just pounding away and then all of a sudden he picks up the familiar beat and really leads it in and they all kind of come together with Phil giving us a big Phil bass bomb hopefully and Jerry and Bobby really cranking into it, the keyboard players cranking into it and it just picks up that familiar tune and always a treating concert, always fun to hear and you know just the boys that they're creative and mind-bending best.
Um, so now we're going to head into our, uh, other fun portion of the show here, uh, where we talk about all things marijuana. And as we do, we're going to turn things over to Dan Humiston just for a minute so he can play some new music to lead us in to this section of the show. What do you got today, Dan?
Larry (44:42.894)
Well, who doesn't know Steve Miller singing the Joker and aren't we all midnight Tokers or at least we were when we first started out, uh, that was a song that we first used to listen to it in the early seventies and we picked up on the lyrics and we all go midnight Toker, he's saying Toker. We all kind of thought we knew what Toker meant and somehow or other along the way we finally figured it out. And then we were all old enough to toke and we did it. We'd play the song again and we'd hear midnight Toker and we'd all laugh cause we'd look at the clock and it would be 12 or 1230 or one o'clock in the morning or.
whatever crazy time us college kids stayed up until back in the day. Um, and so we were midnight token. So, uh, Steve Miller's song is a great one to play leading into, uh, cannabis news. So thank you very much, Dan, as always, you've outdone yourself. Um, it's time for another study. And whenever we do studies on this show, we know they're usually going to work out in ways we like. And this one is no different. A new study of 1000.
886 cancer survivors. And let me just give a shout out to MJ Marijuana Moment for this new story. They and MJ Biz are our favorites, and we strongly recommend that you keep them on your internet bar for popular websites to go to find out what is going on in the world of cannabis on a regular basis. So Ben Adlin tells us that a new study of 1,886 cancer survivors
found that nearly either half currently or previously used cannabis, with most of those who used marijuana after their diagnoses reporting that it was to manage symptoms like sleep disturbances and pain. About a fifth of cancer survivors had found currently used cannabis for symptomatic relief while undergoing active cancer treatment. Published late last month in the Journal of Cancer Survivorship, the study says that the prevalence of cannabis use among cancer survivors was notable, with most reporting a great to be.
great degree of symptomatic improvement for the specified reasons for use. Of all participants, 17.4% were current cannabis users, 30.5% were former users, and 52.2% said that they'd never used marijuana. Of the 510 respondents, 27% who used cannabis after their cancer diagnoses, 60% said they used it to manage sleep disturbances, followed by pain at 51%.
Larry (47:06.018)
stress management at 44% for nausea, 33%, and to help with mood disorder or depression at 32%. A majority of the patients said the use of marijuana was effective at treating symptoms. Among those using it to treat nausea, for example, 73.6% said it was effective to a great extent, with another 24.4% saying it was somewhat effective. Only 1.9% said it had very little efficacy.
And virtually no one said that it was not at all effective. Similar findings occurred around depression, zapatite pain, sleep stress, and coping with illness generally. In each instance, more than half of respondents said cannabis was helpful to a great extent, while between half and a quarter said it was somewhat effective. Small smacks factions at most around 5% reported very little benefit or none at all. In terms of treating cancer itself, responses were only slightly less enthusiastic.
Just under half, 47.7% called marijuana effective to a great extent. 34.5% said it was somewhat helpful, and 13.8% said it offered very little benefit, and just 4% said it helped not at all. A four-author research team at the University of Texas's Medical Anderson Cancer Center also found that awareness of marijuana's potential health hazards was quite low among respondents, with only about one in 10%
reporting awareness of such risks when we're, when were or are you aware, were you or are you aware of any potential health risks associated with cannabis marijuana during your cancer treatment? Only a few were aware of the health risks of cannabis use during cancer management, the study says. Of the 167 survivors who reported awareness of potential health risks from cannabis use, the awareness of adverse health risks associated with cannabis use was low. Suicidal thoughts, only about 5%.
Intense nausea and vomiting also low at 6% depression, 11% anxiety, 14% breathing problems, 30% and interaction with cancer drugs just under 35%. So, you know, it goes on and on, but in short, um, they repart things like reported, not only reduce pain, but clearer thinking, uh, reduced opioid prescribing for certain cancer patients because of the effectiveness of marijuana use and many are.
Larry (49:29.918)
enthused by the fact that at least it might be rescheduled down to schedule 3 and quite frankly if you're using it for cancer, schedule 3 is not going to hurt you very much because you'll be able to easily get prescriptions from doctors. Whether you have to go to a pharmacist or not, you will qualify and you should be able to get it, whereas the rest of us aren't big fans of schedule 3 because it still makes life difficult for us and for those who choose to sell it to us.
Larry (50:00.074)
Another study that spits in the face of the 29 or 32 former U S attorney generals who wrote their bullshit letter a couple of weeks ago, we talked about it on the show, uh, to the DEA and health and human services and all of them saying, we pray and hope that you will not act on this recommendation to reduce it to schedule three, because it remains true today that there is no known effective medical use or medical efficacy.
for marijuana. Well, for God sakes, man, are you reading these articles? Are you reading this article with all of these people who are cancer survivors? Is there anyone out there who doesn t have sympathy for a cancer survivor? So, we re gonna say to cancer survivors, screw you. We re gonna play this game that we ve always played and pretend that marijuana is something that it s not for all of the bullshit reasons that we ve always done in the past. And if it hurts you or bothers you, well, that s just too bad. No, please, can we just do it?
once and for all, we ask this every time. Is there a way to do this? Is there a way to not have to pretend that marijuana is something that has no value, no medical efficacy, when study after study after study points out the efficacies, helping people through the symptoms of cancer. And although I don't know of any American medical groups that recognize it yet, there are others around the world that see cannabis use as a possible.
Actual treatment for cancer, not just treating the symptoms, helping shrink tumors and helping with certain types of skin tumors and various things like that. And we've talked about Rafael Mishulam and all the work that he's done in this area. There's just not enough corroborating medical studies done by doctors in the United States who can't do it because it's schedule one. So we can't get the evidence that we need to get it off of schedule one. It's just a big clusterfuck and we know it, they know it. And little by little, we'll chip away at it. And little by little, that will show.
you know, why they're wrong. And this kind of takes us into our second story, this one from MJ Biz again. So thanks to both news outlets for helping us out here. The US Drug Enforcement Administration is currently conducting its review of an earlier recommendation that the agency reschedule marijuana, a DEA official recently told a federal lawmaker. The potential rescheduling of marijuana started with President Biden's October, 2022 executive order that the federal cabinet level agencies re-examine the drug status under US law.
Larry (52:24.322)
Biden's edict led to an August 29th of this year of 2023 recommendation by the Department of Health and Human Services that the DEA should move marijuana from its current status in schedule one to schedule three of the Controlled Substances Act, something that we've called out as bullshit and said, it should just be taken off the schedule altogether. But let's stick to this story here for a minute. Such a move would unlock significant federal tax reform for beleaguered legal cannabis businesses by taking 280E out of the picture.
Section 280E, and would also likely advance other federal marijuana reform efforts. But before anything of that, any of that can happen, the DEA must propose a change to federal law after due consideration. And what consideration is ongoing, Michael Miller, the DEA's head liaison to Congress, wrote in December 19th letter to US Rep. Earl Blumenauer, the DEA has the final authority to schedule, reschedule, or deschedule a drug under the Controlled Substances Act after considering
the relevant statutory and regulatory criteria and health and human services scientific and medical evaluation, Miller wrote in a three paragraph letter. DEA is now conducting its review he added in the letter, which was first reported by Punch Bowl News. It's unclear when the DEA's review will be completed. Miller did not offer a timeline in his letter. A request by a coalition of democratic governors urging the Biden administration to reschedule marijuana before the end of the...
previous year before the end of 2023 has not already come and gone. But it seems rescheduling is a question of when, not if, based on indicators such as Congressional Research Service analysis showing it's unlikely the DEA will contradict Health and Human Services recommendation. Meanwhile, Blumenauer, a Democrat from Oregon, wrote in a Rensday memo that advancing marijuana policy reform would boost Biden's reelection hopes this year, which is true. With election season nearly upon us,
and the Biden-Harris administration completing its formal review of the scheduling of marijuana, President Biden should keep in mind that no one has been penalized by voters for their embrace of cannabis reform. Blumenauer noted who co-chairs the House's Congressional Cannabis Caucus. A long-time cannabis advocate, Blumenauer has said he will retire when his congressional term ends a year from now, January 3rd of 2024. And certainly those of us in the marijuana industry will miss Earl Blumenauer.
Larry (54:46.234)
and everything that he brought to the table as well. So, you know, there we go. We're talking about removing from schedule one to schedule three. We, you know, we're still looking to see what kind of medical benefits we have. Nobody's reading these articles. Nobody's really paying attention to any of this stuff. And that's very unfortunate because the bottom line is that there's so much gathering evidence out there right now that supports everything we've all thought and felt and known, just innately known for years.
those of us that have smoked it on any kind of a regular basis, you know, for, uh, anywhere, if you know, from one year to 50 years or 70 years, I don't know how old people are who have been smoking, uh, you know, their whole lives, but where is the harm? Where is the danger? We just don't see it on any kind of a regular basis such that it's picked up and reported, or, you know, we don't get warnings from the surgeon general. We don't get any of that with marijuana because it doesn't happen with marijuana, at least nothing that science has demonstrated to us yet. Whereas,
We see over and over again all of the studies and research that are being done. If nothing else, clearly establishing the existence of marijuana's medical efficacy, which should be recognized by everyone, and which should be reason enough to get it off of schedule one and schedule two, making schedule three really a no-brainer, but also a wolf's and sheep's clothing, as we've talked about, because it is not actually making it legal. It's not putting it on the same level as alcohol and nicotine.
and caffeine and why not? It's less dangerous than them. It causes less miss work hours than them. We've known this since as early as the early 1980s and yet we continue to propagate this lie on the federal level that somehow marijuana magically rises up and becomes worse than anything out there. It has to be on the same level as heroin. One level up from cocaine even. And you know, it's just intellectually insulting as we've all talked about. It's really not necessary. And hopefully.
This will be the year where everybody pulls their head out of their ass and moves forward, but back to fun, grateful dead music here and uh, back to our show. And we're going to dive into truck and now listen for Phil.
Larry (57:01.262)
We've talked about this song before, because it is such a popular song. One of the few songs that most non-deadheads who have any interest in contemporary modern music will know, because it was a tune that got a, for the Grateful Dead at least in the 70s and 80s, a reasonable amount of FM airplay, and recognized by the Dead as one of their few pop singles successes, obviously until Touch of Grey came along.
brought to dead a whole new level of fame and fortune that all the rest of us maybe kind of wish they hadn't achieved but they did and we made the best of it. But you know they were writing this song under pressure during the recording of American Beauty on which this album appeared in November of 1970. In January of 71, Trucken was released as a single backed by Ripple, Go Figure. That's gotta be one of the best A B side single releases in the history of popular music.
You know, two great tunes, back to back when 45s really meant something. Um, with Hunter running back and forth with hastily written verses that somehow, despite the fact that they were purpose written on the spot, seemed to have some pretty good staying power. There are rumors that he originally wrote Garlands of Neon and Flashing Marquis out on Main Street as he had an intentionally hard to sing line just to enjoy watching Weir wrap his mouth around, trying to wrap his mouth around them, eventually relenting and substituting arrows of neon.
just to make it possible to sing. And anyone who's seen Bobby sing this song knows that on any given night, the odds of him screwing up the lyrics are just as good, if not better than the odds of him getting the whole thing straight. The music credit is shared by Jerry, Bobby, and Phil. Hunter gets credit for the lyrics, and Hunter took the bare bones outline of some of the band's adventures and misadventures and fleshed them out with memorable features, including their trips around the country with specific references to places and occurrences. In the process, he came up with a chorus consisting of a couple of phrases.
that are now eternally in the cultural psyche. Sometimes the light's all shining on me. Other times I can barely see lately, it occurs to me, what a long strange trip it's been. At some point, Hunter was accused of using a cliche in that final phrase of the chorus. When something you make up becomes such a commonly used turn of a phrase, then your own invention of it is accused of being cliche. That's a measurement of some pretty tremendous wordsmithing success, I think we would all have to acknowledge. And one of the reasons why Hunter
Larry (59:26.198)
Achieved the level of fame and recognition that he did trucking first performed on October 18th 1970 at the Fillmore West The show open with an acoustical except trucking was the first song Other first that night included ripple broke down an operator See a pattern there right the first song breakouts trucking was performed 532 times placing it at number 8 on the list of most played songs with the final performance on July 6 1995
at the Rueport Amphitheater in Maryland Heights, Missouri, just outside of St. Louis. A show I was also very lucky to be at with my good buddy Mark and cool cousin Brent and the whole crowd, just having a great, great time. And I hope you really enjoyed Phil singing on that version of trucking, because we've talked about how after 1973, Phil kind of stepped away from the mic. They took away his stage mic. And it wasn't really until the Madison Square Garden shows in early October, 83,
part of the shows featured on the In and Out of the Garden box that the Dead released a couple of years ago. The 83 shows also being famous for the return of St. Stephen after a five year hiatus. And
Larry (01:00:41.332)
Time out, I forgot what I was talking about.
Larry (01:00:56.578)
Okay, so we'll just cut it out after that it was performed at Riverport Theater in Maryland Heights, St. Louis, Missouri, and then we'll pick it up from there.
Larry (01:01:14.426)
Truckin is the song when I went to my very first concert with good buddy, Mikey out in Ventura on the beach. And, um, I want to say they came out and opened the second set with it. Maybe they closed the first set with that. Sorry. I don't have all my notes on that right in front of me. Embarrassing. I know, but I should know. Um, but the minute they started playing it, Mikey turned to me and said, they know you're here because I walked in saying, basically, you know, truckin and maybe friend of the devil. There weren't many other songs by the grateful dad that I knew. Um,
And trucking was certainly one of them and there it was. And you know, it's kind of nice to be at a dead show with all this music, just, you know, washing over you for the first time and as great magical as it is, it can be almost a little overwhelming. And it was nice just to have that brief little period where they're playing a song, uh, which you know, and, and can listen to and, and really jam on and understand and have a good time with. So, uh, that's all great stuff. Um, we're running out of time. We're going to, uh, part our ways here, uh, in just a moment. Um, uh,
We're going to go out for the end of the show with the final song played from our concert in San Diego, Johnny B. Good encore. And we'll talk about that a little bit in a second. Um, it's a, well, we'll talk about it now. It's a song by American musician, Chuck Berry. It was written sung by Barry in 1958. It was released as a single that year and it peaked at number two on the hot R and B sides chart and number eight on the pre hot 100 chart. The song remains a staple of early and later rock music.
Johnny B. Good is considered one of the most recognizable songs in the history of popular music. Credits is the first rock and roll hit about rock and roll stardom. It has been covered by various other artists and has received several honors and accolades. These includes being ranked 33 on Rolling Stone's 2021 version and seventh on the 2004 version of the 500 greatest songs of all time and included as one of the 27 songs on the Voyager Golden record, a collection of music images and sounds designed to serve.
as a record of humanity that was shot off into space. The song was initially inspired by Johnny Johnson, the regular piano player in Barry's band, which he developed in St. Louis, but developed into a song mainly about Barry himself. Johnson played on many recordings by Barry, but for the chess recording session, Lafayette Leak played the piano along, accompanied by Willie Dixon on bass and Fred Bellow on drums. The session was produced by Leonard and Phil Chess.
Larry (01:03:40.142)
The guitarist Keith Richards later suggested that the song's chords are more typical composition written for piano rather than for guitar. Uh, perhaps you all remember it, um, from, uh, Michael J Fox playing the song and back to the future, uh, getting, uh, Marvin Barry Chuck's cousin on the phone and say, here's that new sound you were talking about, and we all chuckle, uh, the dead plate at 283 times almost always as an encore show closer first played on September 7th, 69.
I had Family Dog on the Great Highway in San Francisco, last played on April 5th, 95 at Birmingham Jefferson Civic Center Coliseum in Birmingham, Alabama. And that kind of surprised me, uh, cause Johnny B. Good not played all the time, but some frequency. And that means it really didn't make it onto the final summer tour at all. And I hadn't really realized that. Uh, and that's really too bad, but it really is a great tune, very distinctive guitar solos, a perfect song for Jerry on a night when he's not singing.
And all in all, I have to say, you know, if you go out there and you're ready to see Jerry and he doesn't sing all night, but you get such great tunes. Bobby's really singing. You got Donna joining in, Phil popping in on truck and Jerry just turned it up under the Wolf guitar that he was playing that night. You know, at the end of the day, uh, maybe it just doesn't get any better than that. And a lot of people talk about this song as being a fan favorite and I can see why and happy that I've turned myself onto it. And hopefully all of you will circle back at some time.
and have an opportunity to listen to the entire song. Again, you can find it on archive.org or wherever you find your live music. And really something that's a lot of fun to listen to. So with that, I'm gonna sign off getting ready here to sit down and watch the Michigan Washington National Championship football game. For those of you who are watching and following the Cannabis Grateful Dead index and heard my numbers today, we'll keep our fingers crossed that it's accurate for two weeks in a row.
and bring a undisputed national championship finally home to my Michigan Wolverines and nothing would make me happier. But if not, I'm sure we'll smoke a little cannabis and listen to some grateful debt and be happy nonetheless. So thank you again, everyone, for listening. Have a safe week and as always, please use your cannabis responsibly. Thank you.
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came in. That's a wrap.
Larry (01:06:25.23)
You know what? I can't see if you're at your computer or not. That may just be your jacket over the back of your chair.
but I know you got a boogie.
Larry (01:06:40.074)
So give me another minute and see if you pop back in.
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month like January or February that if.