Deadhead Cannabis Show

Mickey turns 80/RIP Jimmy Buffet and Steve Harwell

Episode Summary

"Music, Cannabis, and Birthdays: Celebrating Mickey Hart and Remembering Jimmy Buffett" Larry Mishkin celebrates Mickey Hart's birthday, highlighting his contributions to the Grateful Dead. He say farewell to Jimmy Buffet and reflects on the connection between Grateful Dead fans (Deadheads) and Jimmy Buffett fans (Parrotheads), noting Jimmy Buffett's performance at a Jerry Garcia tribute event. Additionally, he pays tribute to Steve Harwell of Smash Mouth and concludes the episode with a nod to Jimmy Buffett's iconic song "Margaritaville." .Produced by PodConx Deadhead Cannabis Show - https://podconx.com/podcasts/deadhead-cannabis-show Larry Mishkin - https://podconx.com/guests/larry-mishkin Rob Hunt - https://podconx.com/guests/rob-hunt Jay Blakesberg - https://podconx.com/guests/jay-blakesberg Recorded on Squadcast   INTRO:               Happy Birthday Mickey / sugar magnolia                                        Grateful Dead                                        Sept. 11, 1987                                        Cap Center, Landover Maryland                                        Grateful Dead Live at Capital Centre on 1987-09-11 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive                                        Track #9 (titled Sugar Magnolia)                                        Start – 1:00 This is Mickey’s birthday, number of fun shows over the years on this date. Always fun, but have to be careful with the Dead                           1982 announced it was Bob’s “anniversary” before Bob was married.              SHOW #1:          Fire On The Mountain (Mickey rap version)                                        With Jerry                                        Undated/unpublished                                        Mickey rapped from time to time, usually not with the Grateful Dead                                                      Did it with the Other Ones Mickey Hart Jerry Garcia ~ Fire on the Mountain(rap) Unpublished.mp4 - YouTube                                        1:00 – 2:05                           Grateful Dead drummer Mickey Hart celebrates his 77th birthday today. With fellow drummer Bill Kreutzmann, Hart formed one-half of The Rhythm Devils, keeping time for the Dead between 1967 and 1971, rejoining in 1974 and remaining through 1995. While Hart largely left songwriting duties to his band mates, he did contribute to one of the Grateful Dead’s signature songs, “Fire On The Mountain.” Grateful Dead lyricist Robert Hunter wrote the words to “Fire On The Mountain.” In Hunter’s book of lyrics, Box Of Rain, he described the circumstances surrounding the writing of the song, which sound strikingly similar to the current situation in parts of California and surrounding states. Hunter wrote:                           Written at Mickey Hart’s ranch [in Novato, California] in heated inspiration as the surrounding hills blazed and the fire approached the recording studio we were working … The official Grateful Dead website, Dead.net, further describes the early stages of “Fire On The Mountain,” explaining: Hart, credited with the music for the song, recorded a proto-rap version of the song for an unreleased album entitled Area Code 415, recorded in 1972 and 1973. It was also included on a Mickey Hart album entitled Fire On The Mountain, recorded in 1973-74. It appeared as an instrumental entitled “Happiness is Drumming” on Hart’s 1976 studio album, Diga. And it finally began showing up in the Grateful Dead repertoire, sung by Jerry Garcia, in 1977, undergoing a number of variants of the lyrics until it settled into the form that was eventually recorded and released on Shakedown Street, in November 1978.              Dead played it 254 times in concert                           First:  March 18, 1977  Winterland                           Last:   July 2, 1995  Deer Creek SHOW #2:          Stronger Than Dirt                           Grateful Dead                           June 17, 1975                           Winterland Grateful Dead Live at Winterland Arena on 1975-06-17 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive Track No. 12 1:00 – 2:10 By Mickey Bill and Phil From Blues For Allah album (1975) – First part of the Blues For Allah suite Played a total of 5 times by the Dead First – 9.11.1974 – which is Mickey’s birthday but there is a controversy as to the song labeled as Stronger than Dirt is in fact that song or rather, the long outro from Eyes of the World, the song played right before it.  So I did not use that version of this song Last: 7.26.1976 Orpheum Theater, S. F. 3x in 1975 SHOW #3:          Drums                           Grateful Dead                                        Sept. 11, 1987                                        Cap Center, Landover Maryland                                        Grateful Dead Live at Capital Centre on 1987-09-11 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive                           Track No. 13                           1:45 – 2:55 Mickey in his natural element – In 1978, the second set of Grateful Dead shows began to feature drummers Bill Kreutzmann and Mickey Hart for a nightly rhythmic excursion labeled “Drums,” followed by guitarists Jerry Garcia and Bob Weir, bassist Phil Lesh and keyboardist Keith Godchaux delving into free-form improvisation known as “Space.”   Loved the different drum arrangements over the years:          Circle of drums          Wall of drums          Etc.          First “official” one (i.e. not in the middle of a song, but as its own separate arrangement in or around the middle of the second set):                   April 6, 1978  Curtis Hixon Convention Center, Tampa          Last one:   July 9, 1995 at Soldier Field Jimmy Buffet Singer-songwriter and King of the Parrotheads Jimmy Buffett died "peacefully … surrounded by his family, friends, music and dogs" on Friday, Sept. 1, according to statements posted on his website and social media. He was 76. Died at home in Sag Harbor, NY of skin cancer Buffett’s hits like Margaritaville and Cheeseburger in Paradise which mingled country rock with bits of calypso melodies and had wry lyrics about the care free life of boating and loafing at beachside bars, made him a cult hero on a huge scale. He sold 23 million albums in the US, on part with Jimi Hendrix and the Beastie Boys Buffett was one of pop music’s most successful and ambitious businessmen, building an empire on the brand of good times and island escapism that he celebrated in his songs.  That included Margaritaville restaurants and resorts, footwear, drink mixes and a 2018 Broadway jukebox musical, Escape to Margaritaville. This year Forbes estimated Jimmy’s net worth at $1 billion.              SHOW #4:          Scarlet Begonias                                        Jimmy Buffet                                        August 2, 2023 (Jerry’s 80th birthday)                                        Maine Savings Amphitheatre                                        Bangor, Maine                                        Scarlet Begonias (Garcia tribute) - Jimmy Buffet 08/02/22 Maine Savings Amphitheater Bangor,Maine - YouTube                                                      Start – 1:30              n celebration of legendary Grateful Dead guitarist Jerry Garcia’s 80th birthday, which occurred (August 1, 2022), Jimmy Buffett performed a cover of the seminal Robert Hunter/Garcia penned number, “Scarlet Begonias” while on stage at the Maine Savings Amphitheater in Bangor, Maine, last night. Following a hefty rain delay, his 28-song set ensued as Buffett reminisced on the times he and his band spent performing with the Grateful Dead years ago. He also offered a shout-out to the Deadheads in the crowd before a groovy light display and hypnotic imagery engulfed the stage. Prior to the start of the song, Buffett addressed the crowd; he stated: “Jerry, wherever you are, here you go.” Of course there is a crossover between Deadheads and Parrotheads – both high devoted fans who travel to see their band, dress for the occasion, attend shows in “slightly altered states” from different substaces, know all the words to all the songs and have seen their band too many times to count.          Jimmy also appeared on the World Wide Ripple video in 2020.          I cannot find any instance of the Dead covering a Jimmy tune.         Also, RIP Steve Harwell, Smash Mouth vocalist, who sang the band’s big 1999 hit, “All Star”.  Still a hit today, unique voice.  Died on Sept. 4th age 56 OUTRO:                    Margaritaville                                 Jimmy Buffet                                 Key West, FL                                 February 9, 2023                                 Jimmy Buffett “Margaritaville” LIVE in Key West, Florida 2/9/23 - YouTube                                 3:00 – 4:25                     While Buffett made his home and name in Key West, Fla., after struggling to make it big in Nashville, the Lone Star State had a special place in Buffett’s history. Legend has it he came up with the concept for the 1977 song “Margaritaville” at a bar in Austin.     The slightly mournful tune about a day at the beach went on to define Buffett's career as a laidback beach bum with a guitar and has been covered plenty of times, as well as inspired a line of margarita mix, frozen snacks, apparel, and a significant chain of restaurants and resorts.                   According to multiple stories in the Austin American-Statesman archives, the original Margaritaville was "a Mexican restaurant on Anderson Lane." Others specifically claim it was Lung's Cocina del Sur, at 2700 W. Anderson Lane, which is now a bowling alley. But here’s what Buffett himself had to say in a memorial for close friend Jerry Jeff Walker in Texas Monthly, reminiscing on visits to Texas in the 1970s: “I came to Austin a lot in those days. I made it there by getting these college bookings and getting on Willie’s second Fourth of July picnic. I played Castle Creek many times. I think it was after one of those shows, the next morning I had a hangover and I had to fly home that afternoon,” Buffett told Texas Monthly. “I went to El Rey, a Mexican restaurant on Anderson Lane for lunch. I had a margarita, which helped with the hangover, and in the car on the way to the airport the chorus of a new song started to come to me. I wrote a little more on the plane and finished the rest of ‘Margaritaville’ back in Key West.” Farewell Jimmy – off to Margaritaville for good.

Episode Notes

"Music, Cannabis, and Birthdays: Celebrating Mickey Hart and Remembering Jimmy Buffett"

Larry Mishkin celebrates Mickey Hart's birthday, highlighting his contributions to the Grateful Dead. He say farewell to Jimmy Buffet and reflects on the connection between Grateful Dead fans (Deadheads) and Jimmy Buffett fans (Parrotheads), noting Jimmy Buffett's performance at a Jerry Garcia tribute event. Additionally, he pays tribute to Steve Harwell of Smash Mouth and concludes the episode with a nod to Jimmy Buffett's iconic song "Margaritaville."

.Produced by PodConx  

Deadhead Cannabis Show - https://podconx.com/podcasts/deadhead-cannabis-show

Larry Mishkin - https://podconx.com/guests/larry-mishkin

Rob Hunt - https://podconx.com/guests/rob-hunt

Jay Blakesberg - https://podconx.com/guests/jay-blakesberg

Recorded on Squadcast

 

 

 

   INTRO:                Happy Birthday Mickey / sugar magnolia

                                         Grateful Dead

                                         Sept. 11, 1987

                                         Cap Center, Landover Maryland

                                         Grateful Dead Live at Capital Centre on 1987-09-11 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

                                         Track #9 (titled Sugar Magnolia)

                                         Start – 1:00

 

This is Mickey’s birthday, number of fun shows over the years on this date.

 

Always fun, but have to be careful with the Dead

                           1982 announced it was Bob’s “anniversary” before Bob was married.

 

              SHOW #1:          Fire On The Mountain (Mickey rap version)

                                         With Jerry

                                         Undated/unpublished

                                         Mickey rapped from time to time, usually not with the Grateful Dead

                                                       Did it with the Other Ones

Mickey Hart Jerry Garcia ~ Fire on the Mountain(rap) Unpublished.mp4 - YouTube

                                         1:00 – 2:05

 

                           Grateful Dead drummer Mickey Hart celebrates his 77th birthday today. With fellow drummer Bill Kreutzmann, Hart formed one-half of The Rhythm Devils, keeping time for the Dead between 1967 and 1971, rejoining in 1974 and remaining through 1995. While Hart largely left songwriting duties to his band mates, he did contribute to one of the Grateful Dead’s signature songs, “Fire On The Mountain.”

Grateful Dead lyricist Robert Hunter wrote the words to “Fire On The Mountain.” In Hunter’s book of lyrics, Box Of Rain, he described the circumstances surrounding the writing of the song, which sound strikingly similar to the current situation in parts of California and surrounding states. Hunter wrote:

                           Written at Mickey Hart’s ranch [in Novato, California] in heated inspiration as the surrounding hills blazed and the fire approached the recording studio we were working …

 

The official Grateful Dead website, Dead.net, further describes the early stages of “Fire On The Mountain,” explaining:

Hart, credited with the music for the song, recorded a proto-rap version of the song for an unreleased album entitled Area Code 415, recorded in 1972 and 1973. It was also included on a Mickey Hart album entitled Fire On The Mountain, recorded in 1973-74. It appeared as an instrumental entitled “Happiness is Drumming” on Hart’s 1976 studio album, Diga. And it finally began showing up in the Grateful Dead repertoire, sung by Jerry Garcia, in 1977, undergoing a number of variants of the lyrics until it settled into the form that was eventually recorded and released on Shakedown Street, in November 1978.

 

 

 

              Dead played it 254 times in concert

                           First:  March 18, 1977  Winterland

                           Last:   July 2, 1995  Deer Creek

 

SHOW #2:          Stronger Than Dirt

                           Grateful Dead

                           June 17, 1975

                           Winterland

 

Grateful Dead Live at Winterland Arena on 1975-06-17 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Track No. 12

1:00 – 2:10

 

 

By Mickey Bill and Phil

From Blues For Allah album (1975) – First part of the Blues For Allah suite

Played a total of 5 times by the Dead

First – 9.11.1974 – which is Mickey’s birthday but there is a controversy as to the song labeled as Stronger than Dirt is in fact that song or rather, the long outro from Eyes of the World, the song played right before it.  So I did not use that version of this song

Last: 7.26.1976 Orpheum Theater, S. F.

3x in 1975

 

SHOW #3:          Drums

                           Grateful Dead

                                          Sept. 11, 1987

                                         Cap Center, Landover Maryland

                                         Grateful Dead Live at Capital Centre on 1987-09-11 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

                           Track No. 13

                           1:45 – 2:55

 

Mickey in his natural element –

In 1978, the second set of Grateful Dead shows began to feature drummers Bill Kreutzmann and Mickey Hart for a nightly rhythmic excursion labeled “Drums,” followed by guitarists Jerry Garcia and Bob Weir, bassist Phil Lesh and keyboardist Keith Godchaux delving into free-form improvisation known as “Space.”   

 

Loved the different drum arrangements over the years:

          Circle of drums

          Wall of drums

          Etc.

 

          First “official” one (i.e. not in the middle of a song, but as its own separate arrangement in or around the middle of the second set):

                   April 6, 1978  Curtis Hixon Convention Center, Tampa

 

          Last one:   July 9, 1995 at Soldier Field

 

 

Jimmy Buffet

 

Singer-songwriter and King of the Parrotheads Jimmy Buffett died "peacefully … surrounded by his family, friends, music and dogs" on Friday, Sept. 1, according to statements posted on his website and social media. He was 76.

 

Died at home in Sag Harbor, NY of skin cancer

 

Buffett’s hits like Margaritaville and Cheeseburger in Paradise which mingled country rock with bits of calypso melodies and had wry lyrics about the care free life of boating and loafing at beachside bars, made him a cult hero on a huge scale.

 

He sold 23 million albums in the US, on part with Jimi Hendrix and the Beastie Boys

 

Buffett was one of pop music’s most successful and ambitious businessmen, building an empire on the brand of good times and island escapism that he celebrated in his songs.  That included Margaritaville restaurants and resorts, footwear, drink mixes and a 2018 Broadway jukebox musical, Escape to Margaritaville.

 

This year Forbes estimated Jimmy’s net worth at $1 billion.

 

              SHOW #4:          Scarlet Begonias

                                         Jimmy Buffet

                                         August 2, 2023 (Jerry’s 80th birthday)

                                         Maine Savings Amphitheatre

                                         Bangor, Maine

                                         Scarlet Begonias (Garcia tribute) - Jimmy Buffet 08/02/22 Maine Savings Amphitheater Bangor,Maine - YouTube

                                                       Start – 1:30

 

              n celebration of legendary Grateful Dead guitarist Jerry Garcia’s 80th birthday, which occurred (August 1, 2022),  Jimmy Buffett performed a cover of the seminal Robert Hunter/Garcia penned number, “Scarlet Begonias” while on stage at the Maine Savings Amphitheater in Bangor, Maine, last night. 

Following a hefty rain delay, his 28-song set ensued as Buffett reminisced on the times he and his band spent performing with the Grateful Dead years ago. He also offered a shout-out to the Deadheads in the crowd before a groovy light display and hypnotic imagery engulfed the stage.

Prior to the start of the song, Buffett addressed the crowd; he stated: “Jerry, wherever you are, here you go.” 

Of course there is a crossover between Deadheads and Parrotheads – both high devoted fans who travel to see their band, dress for the occasion, attend shows in “slightly altered states” from different substaces, know all the words to all the songs and have seen their band too many times to count.

          Jimmy also appeared on the World Wide Ripple video in 2020.

          I cannot find any instance of the Dead covering a Jimmy tune.

         

Also, RIP Steve Harwell, Smash Mouth vocalist, who sang the band’s big 1999 hit, “All Star”.  Still a hit today, unique voice.  Died on Sept. 4th age 56

 

 

 

OUTRO:                    Margaritaville

                                  Jimmy Buffet

                                  Key West, FL

                                  February 9, 2023

                                  Jimmy Buffett “Margaritaville” LIVE in Key West, Florida 2/9/23 - YouTube

                                  3:00 – 4:25

 

                     While Buffett made his home and name in Key West, Fla., after struggling to make it big in Nashville, the Lone Star State had a special place in Buffett’s history. Legend has it he came up with the concept for the 1977 song “Margaritaville” at a bar in Austin. 

 

     The slightly mournful tune about a day at the beach went on to define Buffett's career as a laidback beach bum with a guitar and has been covered plenty of times, as well as inspired a line of margarita mix, frozen snacks, apparel, and a significant chain of restaurants and resorts. 

 

                   According to multiple stories in the Austin American-Statesman archives, the original Margaritaville was "a Mexican restaurant on Anderson Lane." Others specifically claim it was Lung's Cocina del Sur, at 2700 W. Anderson Lane, which is now a bowling alley. But here’s what Buffett himself had to say in a memorial for close friend Jerry Jeff Walker in Texas Monthly, reminiscing on visits to Texas in the 1970s: 

 

“I came to Austin a lot in those days. I made it there by getting these college bookings and getting on Willie’s second Fourth of July picnic. I played Castle Creek many times. I think it was after one of those shows, the next morning I had a hangover and I had to fly home that afternoon,” Buffett told Texas Monthly. “I went to El Rey, a Mexican restaurant on Anderson Lane for lunch. I had a margarita, which helped with the hangover, and in the car on the way to the airport the chorus of a new song started to come to me. I wrote a little more on the plane and finished the rest of ‘Margaritaville’ back in Key West.”

 

Farewell Jimmy – off to Margaritaville for good. 

 

 

 

 

 


 

Episode Transcription

Larry:

Hello everyone, welcome to another episode of the Deadhead Cannabis Show. I'm Larry Mishkin of Mishkin Law in Chicago, Illinois. And, uh, today's September 11th and you know what that means. So yes, September 11th is in fact Mickey Hart's birthday. And while of course September 11th is also remembered for another day, much more somber day, in all fairness to Mickey, he was born first. And I think that we can show appreciation and admiration and celebrate his big day as the Grateful Dead did countless times throughout their career. When I went back and started looking through some of the shows for this day I was surprised at how many there were with a couple of Garcia band shows thrown in so clearly September 11th a day on which the Grateful Dead and or various members Could be found performing somewhere and on this particular day this clip was taken from the Grateful Dead playing on September 11th 1987 of the Cap Center in Landover, Maryland and you know, the boys always like to have fun with that kind of thing. Of course you had to be careful because unless you really knew for sure, you can never quite, quite trust them. At my second show, uh, ever in 1982 at, uh, Syracuse carrier dome, right before the encore of a broke down palace, somebody from the stage announced that it was Bob Weir's anniversary. We'd had a number of celebrations on this tour and tonight is Bob Weir's anniversary and looking back, it was not actually October 16th. So it wasn't his birthday. But they tried to punt it off as his anniversary, and everyone around us kept screaming out Bob's not married, which he was not at the time. So naturally there was a little bit of confusion among those in attendance, and we didn't all have phones that we could go to with Google on them to be able to track down that information instantaneously. So if you're at a Grateful Dead show and somebody makes an announcement from the stage, take it with a grain of salt until you can go home and confirm it or some deadhead who you actually trust. uh... will confirm it for you but today's mickey's day uh... you know the guys in the drums never get as much recognition as the boys up front uh... unfair uh... i would argue because they are the foundation on which the entire musical platform that the guys in front are creating is being built upon and um... uh... you know any good band any good rock band throughout history has always had uh... that drummer whether it was charlie watts or john bonham or Keith Moon, the drummer, such an integral part of any band. And Mickey Hart and Bill Kreutzman, the Grateful Dead had, and we still have, two of the best in the business. It's no surprise that Bill Kreutzman is going strong with his Billy and the Kids. It's no surprise that Mickey Hart was drumming strongly with Dead and Company right up through this final tour. And it doesn't appear as though either one of them is ready to call it a day. But our good friend, drummer Michael Stephen Hartman, known as Mickey Hart, was born in New York on this date in 1943. He quickly became interested in percussion and science at an early age and continued to explore both fields. A fateful meeting with Grateful Dead drummer, Bill Kreutzman, and a Count Basie Orchestra concert in San Francisco led to Hart joining the band. He first performed with the Grateful Dead on September 29th, 1967 at the Strait Theater in San Francisco, where Kreutzman invited him to sit in for the second set. We've told that story before about how they had to go rushing back to Kreutzman's apartment to get a second drum set that they could set up their form. And then Mickey says, after that night, I moved into a closet in Billy and Phil's apartment on Belvedere and became the sixth member of the Grateful Dead. Mickey's initial tenure with the band ended in February 1971. We've talked about that as well. He was there for night one of the historic six night run at the Capitol Theater in Port Chester and then went AWOL on the band for a while. Many say it was because of the actions of his father Lenny who had become the dead's manager and it turned out had been embezzling some amount of funds from them. And he ran off, hence the song, He's Gone. But. And he did take that time off. And he joined the band for a final concert before they took their hiatus on October 20th, 1974. He was welcomed back into the fold when the group returned to the road in 1976. And then he and Kreutzman were behind the kids for the rest of the Grateful Dads career. More recently, the two of them formed the drum line for Denning Company that included John Mayer, they also played with the other ones, they also played with The Dead, they also played with whatever we're calling the group that played in 2015 at Soldier Field. But this was Mickey's life to be, practically born with drumsticks in his hands, both of his parents were champion rudimental marching band style drummers. Mickey committed to percussion early on after experience in high school in the military Air Force marching bands. and a brief stint working at his father's drum shop. He encountered Bill Kreutzman one night at the Matrix on September 30th, 67. He sat in with the Dead and joined the band. His influence over the next year was to push the band into complex multi-rhythmic explorations. A student of Ustad Allaraka, Ravi Shankar's tabla player, he added various strains of non-Western music to the Dead's general atmosphere. Over the years, he has been involved in many musical and archival projects, most notably the band Global Drum Project and... the American Folklife Center at the Library of Congress's Endangered Music Project. He is the author of several books, including Drumming at the Edge of Magic and Global Drums Project. He's put out a number of CDs on his own, Infrared Roses and Planet Drum and all sorts of percussion-based works that he's put together. He's partnered up with percussionists from all over the world. And we've talked about it, what he did with people from Africa, with people from Egypt, with people from everywhere. Percussion apparently is an international language and Mickey speaks it as well as anybody. One CD that he did put out that never really got, I thought, a lot of attention and maybe for the better, maybe not, depending on how you look at it. It was a CD and the name of it was Music to be Born By. And what he did was he had actually recorded his son Taro, when Taro was still in utero, his heartbeat, and used it as a baseline for a whole percussion thing that he put together. And the idea was if it was being played in the delivery room as the baby was being born, the baby would be coming into an environment with a sound background to which the baby was already familiar having been. in utero itself and having heard the mother's heartbeat or its own heartbeat for so long. Some people liked it, some people didn't, count my wife and the group that didn't. Since I wasn't the one going through labor pains, I can't comment on that one way or the other, but I had no problem removing it when being asked and sorry Mickey, I guess it's just not for everybody, but it was a very creative idea and exactly the thing you would expect from Mickey Hart. one of the most special sacred moments of life and finding a way to make it a piece of percussion art and really just incredible. And here's something else that Mickey did. He didn't get a lot of credit for being very much other than a great drummer, which I don't think he ever really wanted, but Mickey was involved in some of the songwriting for the Grateful Dead. And most notably, Mickey is credited with Robert Hunter. as the co-writers of the grateful dead song, Fire on the Mountain, which became popular in the late 1970s and then kind of became co-joined at the hip by Never to be Separated from Scarlet Begonias. And even though Mickey was involved in writing it and Hunter the Words, you know, Jerry sang the song and Mickey was always back there behind the drums drumming, but we've all heard stories, we've all heard rumors, and some of us have actually been blessed enough to hear it. But every now and then when the moment's right, Mickey will get up and actually do his own, what they call a rap version of Fire on the Mountain with the lyrics. And, um, I saw him do it once at, uh, um, Alpine Valley, I want to say when they were touring with the other ones, maybe. Um, but, uh, we have a great version of it that, uh, he recorded with Jerry Garcia, uh, that I was able to find on the internet. So let's go and listen to Mickey rap. That's great stuff, okay? That's just great stuff. That's a guy who doesn't make his living using his vocal skills and yet, once again, taking basic music and breaking it down into a much more rhythmic type of percussionistic format, not unlike what rap is as well. And Mickey's just a natural at it and that's just great to hear that kind of stuff. And... you know quite frankly as much as we all love tearing jerry sing it and the boys really jam it out throwing one of those in every now and then uh... would have been a lot of fun uh... you know certainly i can't speak for every dad had out there but i know folks who would love to hear mickey rap like that and he did most recently actually uh... at the dead and company show at uh... fulsome field in boulder colorado earlier this summer i don't remember which one of the nights it was but uh... much to the delight of the deadheads who had made their way out to Fulsome Field. Robert Hunter wrote the words to Fire on the Mountain, we said. In his book of lyrics, Box of Rain, he described the circumstances surrounding the writing of the song, which sounds strikingly similar to the current situation in parts of California and surrounding states. Hunter wrote that this song was written at Mickey Hart's ranch in Navajo, California, in heated inspiration as the surrounding hills blazed and the fire approached the recording studio where we were working. The official grateful web dead site, dead.net further describes the early stages of fire on the mountain explaining heart credited with the music for the song recorded a proto rap version of the song for an unreleased album entitled area code four one five recorded in 1972 and 73. It was also included on a Mickey heart album entitled fire, entitled fire on the mountain recorded in 73, 70 port 74. It appeared as an instrumental entitled Happiness is Drumming on Heart's 1976 studio album Diga, and it finally began showing up in the Grateful Dead repertoire, sung by Jerry Garcia in 1977, undergoing a number of variants of the lyrics until it settled into the form that was eventually recorded and released on Shakedown Street in November 1978. And I love that because that encapsulates what we always talk about with Grateful Dead songs, right? This was Mickey's song that... He was just kind of doing it his way and the way he liked doing it. And you know, over time, the dead kind of picked up on it and Jerry picked up on it and he added his two cents and everybody else did. And you know, made it out on Shakedown Street and we have this wonderful tune that we all loved as much as any that they played and play it they did 254 times. First played on March 18th, 77 at Winterland and last played on July 2nd, 95 at Deer Creek. So always, always a crowd favorite. almost always paired with Scarlet Begonias, though not always. And even when it wasn't, it was just such a pleasure and I never heard anybody go to a Grateful Dead show and complain that they played Fire on the Mountain. And again, great to hear Mickey do that. One other thing that Mickey did, another song that he gets some credit for in the Grateful Dead repertoire. is one of those strange songs that like you'd see on the albums that some bands of that era did, you know, with like songs with subtitles and then subtitles under the subtitles and stuff like that. And on the Blues for Allah album, there is a little musical suite called Blues for Allah and it's at least on the album identified as being broken down into two parts. The first part is Stronger Than Dirt, second part is Milk and the Turkey. songwriting credit for Stronger Than Dirt. So if you've listened to the album before, it's a little instrumental thing in there that's very nice and fun to listen to. But a lot of that really kind of deep, deep blues for all this stuff from the album was never really played very much by the Grateful Dead in concert, at least not during the period of time that I was going to their concerts. And... And although Phil and friends and some of the others have picked up on that and have incorporated different parts of Blues for Allah and some of the other in the desert songs that come off of that album, you just don't hear them a lot. So I was pleasantly surprised to find very quickly that an example of Stronger Than Dirt played by The Grateful Dead was not impossible to find, not played very often as we'll talk about in a minute. But let's listen to stronger than dirt So that is Stronger Than Dirt. It's from the Grateful Dead show June 17th, 1975 at the Winterland Arena in San Francisco. And again, as I said, it was credited, the musical composition is credited to Mickey Bill and Phil. It's from the Blues for Olla album released in 1975. It is the first part of the Blues for Olla suite, followed by Milk and the Turkey. And here's why most of us don't have a lot of familiarity with it other than, you know, deep dives into Blues for Olives because Grateful Dead played it live a total of five times. The first time was in fact on Mickey Hart's birthday, September 11th, 1974, and I was all set to put that version of it, but when I was listening to it, it didn't sound quite right to me. And reading the comments under the show where it was found on Archive.org confirmed that there was a controversy as to whether the song that was labeled as stronger than dirt was in fact that song or rather the long musical outro from Eyes of the World, which was the song played right before it in the concert. Now knowing that back at that time, 73, 74, 75, when Wake of the Flood also had been a relatively new album still and some of these songs like Eyes of the World were just, you know, really getting started, they would often play the full outro of the song along kind of musical interlude. And if you go back and listen to Wake of the Flood, you can hear it in some early versions of Eyes of the World from 73 and 74 and even part of 75. You can still hear it. This was in fact September of 74, but so not out of the place, but it sounded to me like it was the outro from Eyes of the World. There was a lot of controversy, a lot of people writing notes saying they too believe the song was mislabeled and that it was in fact the Eyes of the World outro. So we didn't use that version of it, but that gets counted in the five. So if you kind of take that out, then there's only four. The last time they played it was on July 26, 1976 at the Orpheum Theater in San Francisco. They played it three times in 1975. And including this version from June 17th, 1975. And there you go, right? And the Grateful Dead, nothing is too big, nothing is too small. Just this little musical interlude that very, very rarely made it into an onstage performance. But for fans, again, of the discography of the Grateful Dead who have, Blues for Olly are probably very familiar with Stronger Than Dirt. And it's a good song to smoke a joint during because there's no singing, so you don't have to worry about coughing when you're trying to sing the lyrics. Or so they tell me. Uh, so, uh, yeah, so that's stronger than dirt. Um, again, Mickey just having some fun and, and doing his thing, showing that, uh, you know, he can, she can scratch it out a little bit of music when he wants. And I do have a little bit of Mickey heart still to go, but, um, I saw this news just today and I grabbed it because. I think that it's, it's well, it fits in very nicely with the show. That's talking about a band that played for 30 years and has already been out of the scene for another 20 since then, or more, 25 I guess, going on 30 years, just their lead singer and guitar player went as far as he could and then couldn't go any further. Well, there aren't a lot of bands that are still out there and still active today that can make a claim to have played as long as or longer than The Grateful Dead. And yes, obviously a band like Fishcan now because of... when they started, but if you talk about a band that more or less came on the scene at the same time as The Grateful Dead, so early to mid 60s, there are not a whole lot of bands left that fit that bill. And of course, one of them is The Rolling Stones, the greatest rock and roll band in the world. And I say that proudly because The Grateful Dead are not a true rock and roll band, they're a jam band in the better sense of the word. And you know, when... They don't play songs like Jumpin' Jack Flash and Street Fightin' Man and Brown Sugar and all those great Rolling Stones rock and roll tunes that we all jammed out on for years and years and years. And the Stones of course started, I think, I want to say their first album came out in 63 or 64. And Mick Jagger and Keith Richards are still going strong together. Ronnie Wood joined the band a few years later. Brian Jones, the original guitarist, of course died. Bill Wyman, the bass player left the band a few years back and they've had another bass player. Um, but you know, at the end of the day, it's Keith Richards still on lead guitar out there, you know, bringing out the music and Mick Jagger. So lo and behold, the Rolling Stones have confirmed their first new studio long playing album LP kids. That means a record album in 18 years, 18 years since their last record. Um, and you know, actually for awhile there in the eighties and nineties, the stones were rather prodigious in how much new music they were putting out and Bridges to Babylon and some of those albums. And I can't say I ever really liked those albums very much. I didn't dislike them. It just, for me, felt a little stretched and you know, after Start Me Up, I, I think I kind of drew the line or tattoo you or whatever album that was. Um, but, uh, I'm gonna go out and I'm gonna check this album out because why the hell not? This is the Rolling Stones for God's sake. So they recently had a live stream on their official YouTube channel, a 30 minute segment hosted by Jimmy Fallon at London's Hack the Empire Theater. I'm just gonna say this about Jimmy Fallon, I think he's a very nice guy, I don't know Jimmy. But of all those guys who are on late night TV, he's probably my least favorite. His style seems very stilted. You know, he doesn't seem as natural and as comfortable with everything. But I'll be damned if he doesn't know like everybody in the industry and he gets the best freaking gigs around. So hats off to him. And, uh, you know, if they bring the Rolling Stones, reach out to Jimmy Fallon and say, we want you to come in and host this, uh, this program that we're doing, you know, you've made it big time. So Jimmy, God love you. Doesn't matter what I think, you know, if Mick Jagger and Keith Richards like you, um, you know, you're in. So they wanted the London's Hackney Empire Theatre to announce the release of their first studio album comprised of new material in 18 years. Hackney Diamonds, it's gonna drop on October 20th via Geffen Records, and as a preview of the set, the band shared their first single, Angry. I don't have a clip of it and can't share it yet because it hasn't been officially released, but I'm sure clever people can go around and find it. According to the official press release, Hackney Diamonds will feature 12 new tracks recorded in various locations around the world including Henson Recording Studios in Los Angeles, Metropolis Studios in London, Sanctuary Studios in NASA Bahamas, Electric Lady Studios in New York, and the Hit Factory Germano Studios also in New York. The list of locations speaks to the band's universal draw and ability to transcend audiences internationally, a skill that dates back to their initial commercial success. The impending drop represents the Rolling Stones' first studio set of new material since 2005's A Bigger Bang, which coincidentally was released on September 6, 18 years ago. Since then, the band, which features Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, and Ronnie Wood, has continued to garner notoriety by selling out global tours, delivering chart-topping albums, including their last 2016 Grammy Award-winning Blue and Lonesome LP, which featured their takes on collection of favored blues tracks, that helped forge their own sound and style. Hackney Diamonds marks the Rolling Stones' first collaboration with New York-born producer and musician Andrew Watt, who is producer of the year at the 2021 Grammy Awards and past work with stars such as Elton John, Iggy Pop, and contemporary artists such as Post Malone. So freaking hats off to the Rolling Stones, man. I mean, that's just great. Good for them. And I hope they tour again, you know, and I would love to go see them. You know, I've told the story, I saw them in 1981 in Philadelphia with my buddies and we thought they just were so old and oh my god, they sounded old, they looked old, and they hadn't even gotten started, right? In 81 they were just playing for about 15, under 20 years and you know, since that time they've put another 40 years behind them so, shows you what a bunch of stone wannabe hippies from the early 1980s knows. But nevertheless, God bless those guys and uh... I hope they just keep cranking it out and Keith Richards defies all the odds and all the logic that any of us ever had about what heavy duty drug use could mean to long term survival so God bless him and we'll see where they can go from here but it just seems like wherever they go it's always in a great direction, a lot of fun and some great balloons to see. Okay, so. I'm not quite done with Mickey Heart. I just wanted to make that quick foray over because in a few minutes it'll be time to turn our attention to the green stuff that we love to talk about on the show. But I got one more little piece of music for Mickey Heart and in his honor today, given that it is his birthday. And of course, what would the Grateful Dead be in Mickey Heart be without drums? That really is Mickey and of course Billy in their natural element. They're great drummers, they're great backing on all of the Grateful Dead tunes, but it's the rare band that commits a designated portion of each of its shows strictly to its drummers. And the Grateful Dead not only did it, they could do it because both Mickey and Billy's talents and skills and own imagination and creations come up with such wonderful sounds. And this one, right, we hear them just with an initial drum beat, and then it breaks into all sorts of distorted sounds. The crowd clearly loves it. And as my good buddy Mike used to say when they'd come out for drums, time to just kick back and take it all in. And he was usually right, but if you were in the right frame of mind and it was the right night, that drums, you could find yourself standing and being very active to that as well. And you could always spot the dosers, because they were the ones dancing. out there very much and loving the vibes that were coming from the drum solo but it wasn't always that way. In the beginning of the Grateful Dead, while it was not uncommon for Bill and then when Mickey joined the band, both of them you know they have some kind of drum solos, they would typically be either in the middle of a song or leading into a song such as the big drum play always before the other one in the early days and it wasn't until 1978 uh... that the second set of Grateful Dead shows began to feature uh... Billy and Mickey for a nightly rhythmic excursion that we all knew and put on our tapes as drums followed by Garcia, Weir, and Lesh and sometimes Keith Gaucho or eventually Brent and eventually Vince uh... delving into their free-form improvisation uh... that we all called space and so that's why every show basically from 78 on if you're looking through the second set about halfway give or take through you will always see a space slash drums entry uh... usually it's right at the place where the tape flips they'll get the drums in uh... the whole first part of the second set and the drums are a good portion of the drums till the tape runs out and as far as tapers are concerned that's always the ideal place to flip a tape because you know the idea that the size if you missed you know ten fifteen twenty seconds out of drums or space well okay but you know you're not missing like you know the key parts of the concert or anything and i generally agree with that there have definitely been some drum solos where uh... there were certain segments of it that you didn't want to miss and you were glad that you heard uh... but i certainly don't disagree with the overall notion that is compared to missing a key line out of the song because that's when your tape ran out uh... that uh... that was the way to do it right you have these ninety minutes Max cells and 45 minutes on the side. And so, you know, for a 90 minutes, second set, give or take, that's usually what it was half and half being flipped right at the, uh, right at the drums in space and the deadwood screw you if they played an extra song or two heading into the drums in space. Cause then you had to worry as to whether that last song was going to actually be the, it was going to still be in play when it was time to flip your tape and I would see many a taper sitting there, you know, quietly holding their breath and saying a little prayer. hoping that the dead would kick it over to the drummers just in time before they had to flip. You could always tell if they got their wish or not because they'd be screaming either cool or swear words if it went the other way for them. But yeah, ever since I started seeing shows and people who I knew saw shows, drums in space and it was always out there and it just was a great part and a natural extension of the band and the live performance they were giving you. These guys were coming up with something new and creative and just giving it so much energy. And I loved all the different drum arrangements they had over the years. When I first started, they had the circle of drums. It was literally all of their drums elevated up around them in a big circle. So during the drum solo, they could literally stand up at their kits and have all of these drums just readily available for them to just reach out. And if you ever saw the Jetsons back in the day when we were kids, there's one episode with George Jetson playing the drums and he's literally. sitting on a seat completely surrounded by drums. And my brother and I always used to wonder, how did he get in there to play the drums? But nevertheless, that's what George did. And meanwhile, these guys, they weren't boxing them in, but they were up there and you'd see these big, huge drums just hanging down in a circle around the drummers. And it was always quite a sight and fun to see. And then eventually they would have like a wall of drums. which was, you know, they got rid of the drums hanging over their head and they put them all kind of right behind the drummers. And then when they were doing the drum solos, they'd get off and kind of turn their backs to the audience a little bit to play all the things they had there. Then they actually had a whole line of drums where they extended down the wall and really extended out. And then by the time Denning Company was touring, they basically just built on the stage back there as near as I could tell, you know, a little studio, a little separate area for Mickey to go stand in. and Jay Lane or whoever was drumming with them at the time to go stand in to do their drums and quite frankly there was room. It wasn't unusual to see O'Teal go back there and drum with them and sometimes some of the other members of the band. It would just become almost a team project. But however they did it, it was fun. It was just part of the show. And you knew going in you were going to get the drums into space and you hoped that it would actually... Be something memorable. And ever since April 6, 1978, at the Curtis Hickson Center in Tampa, Florida, right up until the very last show they ever played, Drums was there and Mickey really made it happen. So happy 80th birthday, shout out to Mickey Hart. Keep going, man, it's great. All you guys are hitting the 80 mark and still going strong. Now if we can just get all four of you back together to play, you know. Even though we know you told us it was your last time, but that's okay, I don't think too many people will be upset if you can all find your way onto a stage again, either with John Mayer or with Trey or whoever you guys wanna bring in and play with you, but as long as you're all healthy, as long as you're out there playing music anyway, man, would it be awesome for us to be able to see you guys do your thing, but Mickey Hart day to day, Mickey Hart's birthday, 80 years young, probably going out. to the great outdoors to celebrate as only Mickey can. And we wish him a good time, a healthy year, and look forward to celebrating with him again next year. We're gonna switch over in a minute here on the musical side because we did have a rather major loss in the music world just about a week ago now. And we're gonna delve into that pretty deeply. But before we do, we are going to go talk about a little marijuana. So Dan, what do you got for us today? Very timely, sir, very timely. Very nice indeed. Yes, marijuana, the topic that all the greats can, if you look hard enough, you can find any of them singing a song about it, and how wonderful is that? So, let's dive right in, and most of what we got today on marijuana, quite frankly, centers on Washington, DC, and for all intents and purposes, that's where all the action is, where all the action's gonna be. you know the states that have changed have changed, the states that are going to change will change, but for everybody, and we've talked about this for a long time, we need federal action and nowhere do we really need it more than in the idea of banking. And what are all of these people supposed to do with all of this money that they're bringing in if they can't accept checks, they can't accept credit cards, for a while they could accept debit cards until MasterCard and others came out and said no debit cards. And there's all sorts of other brand new alternatives and actually some really great and exciting ones that are coming out. And I'm going to make it a point to try and touch on some of those over the next couple of weeks because it's important to know what you have in terms of options for handling money in this industry because the feds are not making it easy for anyone. And yes, 280E and all of that, and yes, rescheduling which we talked about last week. would very likely open the door for banking and very likely get rid of 280e. But it's really a scam by the government because it's a, hey, look over here while they hide the fact that they're really keeping that by doing that marijuana illegal, meaning that you can't get marijuana from anyone other than a licensed pharmacist, just like you can't go out and buy Xanax from a guy in a street corner, although millions of Americans apparently do, for what I hear. I am not a street corner Xanax kind of guy for the record. But those are not legal sales. That's an illegal sale of drugs. And anything on the schedules, if you're selling it and you're not a licensed pharmacist, because one and two don't typically get sold on the street. They can't. They're either criminal or require very, very special extenuating circumstances to be able to be used in any kind of a medical situation. So we need to get marijuana off of the schedules. but since the government is proving to be woefully inefficient at getting that done in any kind of a timely fashion, much to the chagrin of many in the industry and much to the pleasure of many in the industry who love the fact that it's still a very highly restricted market and think that as long as it's illegal like that, they don't have to worry about fighting off the big guys from coming in. But all the rest of us are sitting here waiting to see what's going to happen and our eyes are all focused on the Senate because that is where... uh... things always get tied up the house in a very fine bipartisan fashion always passes uh... safe-baking act measure by huge margins that it goes off to the senate today and as you know uh... especially and i too uh... the degree that i'm uh... intellectually capable of understanding the argument as well as he is uh... you know it's very frustrating to see politics and other like things like that kind of step in and uh... So here's the latest right from our good friends at marijuana moment Kyle Yeager. Thanks as always For being one of our great sources for marijuana news on this show We appreciate you guys the Senate Banking Committee chair aims to advance the marijuana bill Within the next six weeks a key Senate chairman committee chairman says he's spoken with Chuck Schumer the majority leader About moving bipartisan marijuana banking legislation, which he hopes to advance along with several other priority bills in the next six weeks. Senate Banking Committee Chairman Sherrod Brown, a Democrat from Ohio, said Monday that the Secure and Fair Enforcement Safe Banking Act is one of the top bills of his fall legislative agenda. And while he didn't comment on the substance of his conversation with Leader Schumer, the majority leader has made clear in letters to colleagues and in floor speeches on Tuesday priority. We want to get recoup, we want to get safe banking. We already have the Fendad Fentanyl Act. Those are priorities, Brown said, referencing banking accountability and opioid-related enforcement legislation in addition to the marijuana measure. We want to do all of that in the next six weeks. Well, the prospects of passing the Safe Banking Act this fall, as always, are contingent on a number of factors, including the fact that moving must-pass spending legislation to fund the government is expected to take up a significant amount of the senator's times, as we know coming up, because otherwise at the end of September the government can shut down. And Marjorie Taylor Greene is running around swearing that if they don't impeach Biden, she's going to let it shut down, to which we say, good, they'll stop paying you your money and you can go home to Georgia and do whatever it is you do back there. But I digress. There's also the matter of disagreement over one key section of the bill that prevented it from advancing during the summer session before the lawmakers broke for the August recess. Right? Here's the politics, folks. Here's where it starts to get touchy. Some Democrats believe that section 10 of that legislation would undermine banking regulations and are seeking to amend or remove. Republicans have said that is a non-starter. And what section 10 basically does is it determines whether or not other parts of government can come in, like the DEA, for instance, and say to the, banking legislators that you're not allowed to shut down an account, you're not allowed to accept an account for certain reasons. And the politics on this are just not okay because Republicans have said they view that option as a non-starter by trying to put that stuff in. It's unclear if any progress was made over any of the recess to reach an agreement that would allow the bill to be approved. to move through the Senate Banking Committee and onto the floor. So the Democrats want to get it done for marijuana purposes, the Republicans want to get it done for marijuana, but as long as it's getting done, they want to play games with it as well so that they can then, well actually I said that backwards, the Republicans might accuse the Democrats of playing games with it because I think that what the Democrats are looking at, one of the issues that has come up is whether or not down the road there would be an option to say to gun manufacturers. well if you don't stop manufacturing we're just not going to let you have banking services anymore. And so I think that you know there's a little give and take on that issue here, but to me ultimately the bigger issue is that it's not a bipartisan issue. Schumer stressed that on Tuesday that we're under no illusion that we can make progress on the Senate floor unless we get bipartisan cooperation in marijuana reform and other priorities such as curbing the price of insulin and competing against None of this will be easy either. The bills require a lot of work and compromise, but if we can progress on these items, we will greatly improve the lives of the average American. Great. Nicely said, Chuck. Don't pay it enough lip service. Let's just get it done. Everybody's been saying this is a great bill ever since it first showed up a number of years ago. We need to get it done. In the Senate, the safe-baking hack has 42 cosponsors, which is nearly half of the Senate, and that includes eight Republicans and three independents. as a standalone in its current form, insiders say the measure is enough Republican buy-in to reach the 60 vote threshold needed for passage in the Senate. Well, that's also good to know, but again, as we've talked about, this instance talk is cheap. These guys talk about this all day long. Rob, as you know, has been universally suspected and pessimistic as to whether these guys can ever get their act together anytime soon. I try to be a little more hopeful and positive, even though I know that Rob is probably right, and I'm... Just trying to look at it in a way that defies common sense and logic, which sometimes when it comes to things you have a passion for, that can get in the way. But OK, so we'll see what the Senate does. OK, so that's story number one out of Washington, DC. Let's read story number two out of Washington, DC. Again, from Marijuana Moment, this one by Ben Adlin. And this is going to be an interesting take. because in this one we have a congressman who is interfering in a Cherokee tribes marijuana legalization vote and the chief of the tribe says the interference might very well help the referendum pass when his tribe votes. So the head of the, as reported by Ben, the head of the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians which is set to vote on a referendum to legalize cannabis for adults says he believes efforts by an anti-marijuana North Carolina GOP congressman to insert himself into the tribes internal affairs. could ultimately cause more members to support the measure. In an interview this week with Marijuana Moment, the principal chief of the Eastern Band of the Cherokees, Richard G. Snead, said it was a big misstep for US Rep Chuck Edwards, Republican from North Carolina, to run an op-ed in the Tribal News publication, Cherokee One Feather, in which the congressman said, "'Legalization on the Tribal land would be irresponsible, and I intend to stop it.'" OK, before we go any farther, can we just talk about who these white privileged men are who want to go interfere in how people do business on Indian tribes? I intend to stop it. Thanks, Chuck. That's just what everybody wanted to hear, that you're going to step in and you're going to interfere with what they want to do. It's a way for them to make money. It's a way to hopefully help get a lot of Native Americans off of alcohol. and perhaps other dangerous drugs that they've taken and that public health outreach programs have worked with them on for a number of years to try to help solve. This is an opportunity for them to make money selling something that's completely legal. And as we're gonna find out in a minute, everyone in the world, even the federal government knows is safe. And this guy is gonna go in there and be a tool and make a big issue out of this, okay? There's just, to insert yourself like that. and kind of take on this paternal attitude with them is so unnecessary, so improper, and so typical for this country in the way it treats Native Americans. And that alone would be enough to piss us off. But luckily, the members of the Cherokee tribe are hip to this guy, too. So Chief Sneed said that Edwards putting the op ed in the tribe's paper. probably fuels more people to vote for it. So we'll see what happens come time for the vote. Right, what this guy did was he dropped an op ed in the Tribal News' own publication to voice his opinion and rightfully the chief of the tribe said that this guy, you know, trying to come in and you know, like white man, explained to us what we should do. Yeah, people are gonna be knee-jerk against that and they might otherwise vote for something which they might have voted against anyway. Um, last week, Edwards followed up on his threat, uh, by introducing in Congress, the stop pod act, which would cut 10% in federal transportation funding from all tribal governments, as well as us states with legal recreational marijuana. Wow. Okay. You know, once again, forget the fact that all of these, the citizens of these states have voted for this. Forget the fact that every single goddamn episode. We recite yet another study and boy, get ready for the one we have next, cause it's a doozy. And once again, here's our good buddy, Chuckie Edwards from North Carolina. He knows best. He knows everything. He's going to come in and he's going to say to States, screw you. I don't like marijuana. So if you mess around with it, we're going to stop giving you money for this. We're going to stop giving you money for that. Uh, we're going to stop helping you, uh, with federal transportation funding because I don't like it. I don't think it's right. Okay. And I don't know Chuck Edwards and I have no idea, but maybe he's the guy who goes home and has five or six or seven drinks tonight. In fact, he probably gets together and does that with Ted Cruz and right. How about these guys, Ted Cruz, right? The biggest fiasco that he's got out there is, uh, going on tick tock and totally taking a story and completely changing it for his own purposes and, and taking a general recommendation from the national introduced national Institute of health, uh, that says that most Americans are are probably wise to restrict their alcohol intake to two drinks a day. Not saying it's the law, not saying anyone has to do it, but just saying generally, you know, it might be a good idea. And what's Ted Cruz's response? You're going to tell me I'm limited to two beers a day. Well, you can kiss my ass. Right. Cause Ted Cruz is your typical blue collar guy who goes out to the neighborhood bar and bellies up and, and pounds beers with the boys all night. So he takes that and he blows it out of proportion. So here's Ted Cruz. What is he doing besides being a total tool? He's advertising. for alcohol, he's saying to the National Institute of Health, you can't tell me how much I can drink. Right? But then he's going to turn around, the Republicans are going to turn around and say, oh no, not marijuana, no, sir. We can't have that. Absolutely not. Chuck Edwards likes to go drinking with Ted Cruz, but they don't like marijuana, so we can't allow that. We can't have that. The hypocrisy is really kind of overwhelming. And you know, how asinine for... Look. People can drink as much as they want to drink, but when a politician tries to make a big deal out of it and pretend like he's one of the guys with the implicit message being, we all drink a lot. Two beers, we all drink way more than two beers. He's also encouraging people to engage in the use of a product from which three million people die, alcohol-related deaths every year. Nobody dies from smoking marijuana. What is Ted Cruz doing here? What messages is he sending to anybody? Not that anybody listens to his messages, but if they did, what messages is he sending? Okay, so how do we know that these guys are all full of crap? Because we just had a very, very special anniversary last week. September 6th marks the 35th anniversary of the DEA's own judge calling for marijuana rescheduling as the agency now conducts its new review, right? And we talked about last week that the National Institute of Health, or the Health and Human Services, and the DEA. uh... are contemplating a proposition to reschedule marijuana from schedule one to schedule three and i just got done talking about a second ago why that's stupid but in doing so the DEA is pretending like well you know we're finally at a point where maybe it's time to think about rescheduling and that would all be great if that wasn't a big huge lie by them as well why because thirty five years ago the chief administrative law judge the top legal guy for the Drug Enforcement Administration itself declared marijuana to be, quote, one of the safest therapeutically active substances known to man, close quote, recommending rescheduling and criticizing the agency for impeding patient access 35 years ago. 35 years ago. This is the chief administrative law judge for the DEA. We don't hear about this. The DEA never liked that message. They tucked it away. And we're only hearing about it now, because it's been 35 years and somebody's digging it back up. It's just unbelievable, the games and the nonsense that they play. So now the Health and Human Services is advising the DEA to move cannabis from schedule one to schedule three following a scientific review it carried out under a directive for President Joe Biden. We knew this 35 years ago, guys. Why did we need a new study? To find out what we already knew, the DEA administration law judge Francis Young made history on September 6, 1988, when he issued the ruling titled, In the Matter of Marijuana Rescheduling. The case was the culmination of years of activist-led efforts to get the DEA to carry out a cannabis review which the agency resisted even after being compelled by a federal appeals court. DEA finally held public hearings on the issue in 1986, 14 years after normal. The National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Law, a great organization, and other advocates filed their scheduling petition 14 years later. And after two years, Young released a ruling that sharply criticized the DEA for keeping marijuana on schedule one. Quote, marijuana in its natural form is one of the safest therapeutically active substances known to man. gets better. By any measure of rational analysis, marijuana can be safely used within a supervised routine of medical care. It would be unreasonable, arbitrary, and capricious for the DEA to continue to stand between those sufferers and the benefits of this substance in light of the evidence in this record. I would go back and read it again, but Dan would get mad at me for wasting time. But we all know what it says. And if you don't hit rewind and go back and listen to this again, because it doesn't get any more basic than that. This is the DEA chief judge himself, right? By any measure of rational analysis, think about what this man is saying. He's calling the entire federal government onto the carpet for lying to us, for being hypocrites. for being who knows what you want to call them, for being, ah, we drink more than two beers. Way to go, Ted. Right? How can this be? So the administrative law judge at that time, Young, ultimately recommended that the administrator conclude that the marijuana plant considered as a whole has a currently accepted medical use and treatment in the United States, that there is no lack of accepted safety for use of it under medical supervision, and that it may be lawfully transferred from schedule one. to schedule two. Now that was only going to schedule two at the time. So in all truth, that wasn't really solving our problem, but how far he was willing to go in moving it takes backseat to the fact that maybe this guy says it's safe, it's safe, it's safe, it's safe, it's safe, but I'm such a tool of the government that even I can't imagine it going any lower than schedule two. I'm not ready to release it to the masses yet, even though I just got done saying that it's safe and that no rational person uh... would deny that it can be safely used uh... though he did throw in the language about supervised routine of medical care and medical marijuana and all of that but those are i think well uh... kind of bumpers that he needed to put in there in order for any part of his message to be accepted uh... but you know that's just crazy that that's just crazy talk folks that this is all happening despite the fact that the agency's own judge reached the conclusion uh... that the d a administrator john london rejected in cannabis has remained in schedule one ever since how many people have gone to jail because marijuana was scheduled one during all of this time how many people are having problems now trying to launch the dispensaries or cultivation centers because they can't get baking or they have to pay extra tax on two eighty all because the d a administrator john london for some ruling that reason that none of us know decided that his ideas and thoughts were better than the DEA's own researchers and what Judge Young had just said. So things could finally change soon, maybe with HHS now recommending a Schedule III designation and the DEA confirming that it is now carrying its portion of the review before making a final scheduling decision. Why are they doing another study? What's changed within the last 35 years that they think they need to go in and they need to do another study? They don't, they don't, they don't. And in fact, Here's a great quote from Paul Armentano, the Deputy Director of NORML and a guy we like to talk about on this show all the time. Here's what Paul said, the milestone reflects the reality that advocates have been engaged in a multi-decade long struggle to compel the federal government to acknowledge the obvious, that cannabis possesses therapeutic benefits. It also highlights the fact that the federal government's ongoing refusal to do so has been strictly a political... decision after all it was clear to the DEA's own administrative law judge some 35 years ago that cannabis didn't just meet the requisite standards of safety and efficacy but that in fact marijuana is its natural form is one of the safest therapeutically active substances known to man Arnett and Tino said let's be clear Judge Young didn't call for more research Judge Young didn't say the evidence was equivocal Judge Young was convinced that the science and evidence available at that time made the case for cannabis to be legal available to patients nationwide. The evidence in support of that position has only grown exponentially stronger and, quite frankly, undeniable over the past three and one half decades. The DEA knew back then, what we still know today, that the government has been lying to us about the effects of marijuana. So when you hear that, man, that's just time to roll up a big fad. You go out in the back porch, take some hits, and just curse the federal government for a few minutes for screwing all of us. and really making our lives difficult. I'm swinging back to music here for a minute because I don't want to miss out on Jimmy Buffett today. You know, singer-songwriter, he was the king of the Parrotheads. He died supposedly peacefully surrounded by family, friends, music and dogs on September 1st. He was 76 years old. He died at his home in Sag Harbor, New York of skin cancer. His hits like Margaritaville and Cheeseburger in Paradise. which mingled country rock with bits of calypso melodies and had wry lyrics about the carefree life of boating and loafing at beachside bars, made him a cult hero on a huge scale. He sold 23 million albums in the US on par with Jimi Hendrix and the Beastie Boys. He was one of pop music's most successful and ambitious businessmen, building an empire on the brands of good times and island escapism that he celebrated in his songs. That included Margaritaville restaurants and resorts. footwear, drink mixes, and a 2018 Broadway jukebox musical, Escape to Margaritaville. All told, this year Forbes estimated Jimmy's net worth at $1 billion. Not bad for a parrot head. So, I always look for that link between these guys and the Grateful Dead, and you know what? There always is, and we got Jimmy recognizing it himself. Dan, hit it. That is Jimmy Buffett performing on August 2nd, 2022, which was Jerry's 80th birthday at Maine Savings Amphitheater in Banger, Maine. He performed a cover version of the Robert Hunter Garcia number Scarlet Begonias that night for Jerry. Following a hefty rain delay, his 28 song set ensued as Buffett reminisced on the times he and his band spent performing with the Grateful Dead years ago. He also offered a shout out to the Deadheads and the crowd before a groovy light display and hypnotic imagery engulfed the stage. Prior to the start of the song, Buffett addressed the crowd. He stated, Jerry, wherever you are, here you go. And of course, there was a strong crossover between Deadheads and Parrotheads. Both are highly devoted fans who travel to see their band, dress for the occasion, attend shows in a slightly altered state, often from different types of substances. They know all the words to all the songs and have seen their band too many times to count. Jimmy also appeared on the World Wide Ripple video that came out in 2020 during the pandemic. And so yeah, the bands did travel together. That's why he's telling the story about the Dead would play their shows. They'd come out in the afternoons, Jimmy Buffett to play, and he could just tell by looking at the crowd which of those folks had been at all four of the Dead shows. And of course, the crowd appreciated that as well. I cannot find any instances of the Dead covering a Jimmy Buffett tune, but the internet's such a wide place. uh... maybe there's one out there and uh... we just haven't come across yet but we'll keep our eyes open for it uh... before we spin off for the day into our final jimmy tune uh... i would also just like to give a quick rest in peace shout out to steve harwell steve was the vocalist for the band smashmouth which sang and he sang the band's big nineteen ninety nine hit all-star which uh... my kids loved and i heard over and over and over again and uh... you can still hear often on the radio It is still a hit today. He had a very unique voice. He died on September 4th at age 56. And that is another big loss for the music industry and our condolences to Harwell's friends and family. On the way out the door today, there's really only one song I thought that we could end this with. And I'll give a shout out to my wife too, because when we heard this news the other day on the radio, she was the one who immediately suggested that you can't have a show. without featuring Jimmy Buffett. And as soon as I did five minutes of research, I realized she was right. But everyone knows that this song is coming, right? You go to see the Rolling Stones, you're gonna get Jumpin' Jack Flash. You're gonna go to The Who, you're gonna get Baba O'Reilly. You know, you can go right down the list because some bands have songs that justify the band more than others. And Margaritaville is certainly one of them. While Jimmy made his home and name in Key West, Florida, After struggling to make it big in Nashville, the Lone Star State had a special place in Buffett's history. Legend has it he came up with the concept for the 1977 song Margaritaville at a small bar in Austin during a morning drinking session. The slightly mournful tune about a day at the beach went on to define Buffett's career as a laid back beach bum with the guitar and has been covered plenty of times as well as inspired, as we said, margarita mix, frozen snacks, apparel, chain of restaurants and resorts. and all sorts of good stuff like that. According to multiple stories in the Austin statement, Austin American Statesmen Archives, the original Margaritaville was a Mexican restaurant on Anderson Lane in Austin. Others specifically claim it was Lungs Cochina del Sur at 2700 West Anderson Lane, which is now a bowling alley. But here's what Buffett himself had to say about the memorial for a close friend, Jerry Jeff Walker in Texas Monthly. reminiscing on visits to Texas in the 1970s. I came to Austin a lot in those days. I made it there by getting these college bookings and getting on Willie's 2nd, 4th of July picnic. I played Castle Creek many times. I think it was after one of those shows the next morning I had a hangover and I had to fly home that afternoon. I went to El Rey, a Mexican restaurant in Anderson Lane on Anderson Lane for lunch. I had a margarita which helped me with that hangover and in the car on the way to the airport, the chorus of a new song started coming to me. I really. wrote a little more on the plane and finished the rest of Margaritaville back in Key West. Well, Jimmy, farewell to you. You're off to Margaritaville for good and we will certainly miss you in the musical world. So we miss him. Happy birthday to Mickey one last time. Special shout out to him. 80 is a big age and thank God you're here and you made it, man. We love you and all the things you do for the dead. That's it for this week, folks. Join us again next week. We'll have more great stuff on the Grateful Dead. on marijuana and hopefully the federal government getting off of its ass. In the meantime, have a great week, stay safe and enjoy your cannabis responsibly. Thanks everyone.