Phish's three-night run at Alpine Valley Larry Mishkin features a Grateful Dead concert at a "funky" venue on July 29, 1994, at Buckeye Lake, Ohio. The Grateful Dead opened with "Rain" by the Beatles, reflecting their admiration for the Beatles' music. "Rain," primarily written by John Lennon, was a song exploring themes of reality and illusion and was notable for its use of reverse audio effects. The Grateful Dead incorporated several Beatles songs into their performances, demonstrating their appreciation for the band.
Phish's three-night run at Alpine Valley
Larry Mishkin features a Grateful Dead concert at a "funky" venue on July 29, 1994, at Buckeye Lake, Ohio. The Grateful Dead opened with "Rain" by the Beatles, reflecting their admiration for the Beatles' music. "Rain," primarily written by John Lennon, was a song exploring themes of reality and illusion and was notable for its use of reverse audio effects. The Grateful Dead incorporated several Beatles songs into their performances, demonstrating their appreciation for the band.
The conversation touches on the Grateful Dead's setlist, which included several opening songs like "Feel Like a Stranger" and "Bertha." The speakers recall personal experiences and the excitement of attending these concerts, sharing memories of Buckeye Lake as a vibrant venue despite unpredictable weather. The conversation transitions to "Wang Dang Doodle," a blues standard written by Willie Dixon and performed by artists like Howlin' Wolf and Koko Taylor. The Grateful Dead's affinity for blues music and their ability to blend various musical influences into their performances is highlighted.
Larry changes his focus and shifts to a discussion about the band Phish, detailing a recent three-night run at Alpine Valley. He express his excitement and nostalgia for the venue, sharing experiences of attending concerts there over the years. The recap of Phish's performances includes a detailed analysis of the setlists, noting songs like "46 Days," "Moma Dance," "Cities," "Cavern," "Axilla," "Down with Disease," "Bathtub Gin," and a cover of Led Zeppelin's "Good Times Bad Times." Larry's enthusiasm is evident as he recount the energy and musicianship of Phish, highlighting the unique experience of attending their concerts and the connection it fosters among fans.
Grateful Dead
July 29, 1994 (30 years ago)
Buckeye Lake Ohio
INTRO: Rain
Track #1
:26 – 2:10
Played 29 times
First: December 2, 1992 at McNichols Sports Arena, Denver, CO, USA
Last: June 30, 1995 at Three Rivers Stadium, Pittsburgh, PA, USA
SHOW No. 1: Wang Dang Doodle
Track #4
4:03 – 5:43
"Wang Dang Doodle" is a blues song written by Willie Dixon. Music critic Mike Rowe calls it a party song in an urban style with its massive, rolling, exciting beat.[1] It was first recorded by Howlin' Wolf in 1960 and released by Chess Records in 1961. In 1965, Dixon and Leonard Chess persuaded Koko Taylor to record it for Checker Records, a Chess subsidiary. Taylor's rendition quickly became a hit, reaching number thirteen on the Billboard R&B chart and number 58 on the pop chart.[2] "Wang Dang Doodle" became a blues standard[3] and has been recorded by various artists. Taylor's version was added to the United States National Recording Registry in 2023.
In 1995, Taylor's rendition was inducted into the Blues Foundation Hall of Fame in the "Classics of Blues Recording – Singles or Album Tracks" category.[17] The Foundation noted that the song was the last blues single produced by Dixon to reach the record charts, and "became Koko Taylor's signature crowdpleaser, inspiring singalongs to the 'all night long' refrain night after night".[17]
Taylor's version of "Wang Dang Doodle" was selected by the Library of Congress for preservation in the National Recording Registry in 2023.[18]
Chuck Berry, Bruce Hornsby, John Popper, Bob Weir of the Grateful Dead and Willie Dixon's daughter, Shirley Dixon, performed "Wang Dang Doodle" in tribute to Willie Dixon at the 1994 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony.
In his autobiography, I Am The Blues, Willie Dixon says;
Wang Dang Doodle meant a good time. Especially if a guy came in from the South. A wang dang meant having a ball and a lot of dancing, they called it a rocking style so that's what it meant to wang dang doodle.
Wang Dang Doodle was first performed by the Grateful Dead in August 1983. The song was played only a few times each year through the rest of the 1980's. From 1991 onwards it was performed more often averaging about 15 performances a year through to 1995.
Played: 95 times
First: August 26, 1983 at Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR, USA
Last: July 8, 1995 at Soldier Field, Chicago, IL, USA
MUSIC NEWS:
SHOW No. 2: Althea
Track #7
9:40 – end
INTO
Eternity
Track #8
0:00 – 1:39
Co-writing a song with one of your personal heroes—that seems like a dream come true.
Willie Dixon (1915-1992) was one of the preeminent blues songwriters and performers of all time. The Grateful Dead covered a fairly lengthy list of his songs, attesting to his influence on the band: “Down in the Bottom,” “I Ain’t Superstitious,” “I Just Want to Make Love To You,” “Little Red Rooster,” “The Same Thing,” “Spoonful,” and “Wang Dang Doodle.” Plus a couple they only played once, or only in soundcheck.
The song was written during the sessions for Rob Wasserman’s Trios album. “Guitar Player” magazine ran an interview with Weir in 1993:
I had this chord progression and melody that I wanted to run by Willie to see if he liked it .... he did, so he started dashing off words. He wanted me to run a certain section by him again and stuff like that, and we started working on a bridge. Then he dashes off this sheet of lyrics and hands it to me. Now I'm really stoked to be working with the legendary Willie Dixon and I'm prepared for just about anything.
He hands these lyrics to me and I'm reading through them. And they seem, you know, awfully simplistic. Like there wasn't a whole lot to them....
....Now he wants me to read through it and sing the melody I have and see if they fit. And so I started singing through these simplistic lyrics, and that simplicity takes on a whole other direction.
By the time I had sung through them, it's like my head is suddenly eons wide. I can hear what's happening just sort of echoing around in there and I'm astounded by the simple grace of what he has just presented to me. I'm sitting there with my mouth open literally, and Willie's laughing. He's just sitting there laughing, saying, 'Now you see it. Now you see it. That's the wisdom of the blues
Played: 44 times
First: February 21, 1993 at Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum Arena, Oakland, CA, USA
Last: July 8, 1995 at Soldier Field, Chicago, IL, USA
SHOW No. 3: I Want To Tell You
Track #11
0:00 – 1:35
"I Want to Tell You" is a song by the English rock band the Beatles from their 1966 album Revolver. It was written and sung by George Harrison, the band's lead guitarist. After "Taxman" and "Love You To", it was the third Harrison composition recorded for Revolver. Its inclusion on the LP marked the first time that he was allocated more than two songs on a Beatles album, a reflection of his continued growth as a songwriter beside John Lennon and Paul McCartney.
When writing "I Want to Tell You", Harrison drew inspiration from his experimentation with the hallucinogenic drug LSD. The lyrics address what he later termed "the avalanche of thoughts that are so hard to write down or say or transmit".[1] In combination with the song's philosophical message, Harrison's stuttering guitar riff and the dissonance he employs in the melody reflect the difficulties of achieving meaningful communication. The recording marked the first time that McCartney played his bass guitar part after the band had completed the rhythm track for a song, a technique that became commonplace on the Beatles' subsequent recordings.
George Harrison wrote "I Want to Tell You" in the early part of 1966, the year in which his songwriting matured in terms of subject matter and productivity.[2] As a secondary composer to John Lennon and Paul McCartney in the Beatles,[3] Harrison began to establish his own musical identity through his absorption in Indian culture,[4][5] as well as the perspective he gained through his experiences with the hallucinogenic drug LSD.[6] According to author Gary Tillery, the song resulted from a "creative surge" that Harrison experienced at the start of 1966.
In his autobiography, I, Me, Mine, Harrison says that "I Want to Tell You" addresses "the avalanche of thoughts that are so hard to write down or say or transmit".[1][12] Authors Russell Reising and Jim LeBlanc cite the song, along with "Rain" and "Within You Without You", as an early example of the Beatles abandoning "coy" statements in their lyrics and instead "adopt[ing] an urgent tone, intent on channeling some essential knowledge, the psychological and/or philosophical epiphanies of LSD experience" to their listeners.[13] Writing in The Beatles Anthology, Harrison likened the outlook inspired by his taking the drug to that of "an astronaut on the moon, or in his spaceship, looking back at the Earth. I was looking back to the Earth from my awareness."
Played: 7 times
First: July 1, 1994 at Shoreline Amphitheatre, Mountain View, CA, USA
Last: May 24, 1995 at Memorial Stadium, Seattle, WA, USA
MJ NEWS
SHOW No. 4: Standing On The Moon
Track #19
7:23 – 9:00
Garcia/Hunter tune from Built To Last (1989)
Played: 76 times
First: February 5, 1989 at Henry J. Kaiser Convention Center, Oakland, CA, USA
Last: June 30, 1995 at Three Rivers Stadium, Pittsburgh, PA
OUTRO: Quinn The Eskimo
Track #21
2:28 – 4:17
"Quinn the Eskimo (The Mighty Quinn)" is a folk-rock song written and first recorded by Bob Dylan in 1967 during the Basement Tapes sessions. The song's first release was in January 1968 as "Mighty Quinn" in a version by the British band Manfred Mann,[4] which became a great success. It has been recorded by a number of performers, often under the "Mighty Quinn" title.
The subject of the song is the arrival of Quinn (an Eskimo), who prefers a more relaxed lifestyle [" jumping queues, and making haste just ain't my cup of meat"] and refuses hard work ["Just tell me where to put 'em and I'll tell you who to call"], but brings joy to the people.
Dylan is widely believed to have derived the title character from actor Anthony Quinn's role as an Eskimo in the 1960 movie The Savage Innocents.[5] Dylan has also been quoted as saying that the song was nothing more than a "simple nursery rhyme". A 2004 Chicago Tribune article[6] said the song was named after Gordon Quinn, co-founder of Kartemquin Films, who had given Dylan and Howard Alk uncredited editing assistance on Eat the Document.
Dylan first recorded the song in 1967 during the Basement Tapes sessions, but did not release a version for another three years. Meanwhile, the song was picked up and recorded in December 1967 by the British band Manfred Mann,[7] who released it as a single in the US on 8 January 1968 under the title "Mighty Quinn".[8] A UK single followed within a week.[8] The Manfred Mann version reached No. 1 in the UK Singles Chart for the week of 14 February 1968, and remained there the following week.[9] It also charted on the American Billboard Hot 100 chart, peaking at No. 10, and reached No. 4 in Cash Box. Cash Box called it a "funky-rock track" with "a trace of calypso [to] add zest to a tremendous effort."
Played: 59 times
First: December 30, 1985 at Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum Arena, Oakland, CA, USA
Last: July 2, 1995 at Deer Creek Music Center, Noblesville, IN, USA
Larry (00:27.138)
Hello everyone, welcome to another episode of the Deadhead Cannabis Show. I'm Larry Mishkin of Mishkin Law in Chicago. And we've got a great show today. We've got a wonderful, Grateful Dead show that we're featuring. And if you can hear it in my voice, so far I've survived the first two nights of Alpine Valley, night three of fishes this evening. This show comes out tomorrow, so unfortunately I couldn't also get to the third show. But we'll be talking about nights one and two, and those were fantastic and lots to talk about.
Some interesting stuff on the pro and the negative side of marijuana. We always try to find a little bit of both and Other great stuff. So thank you for joining us today and You're gonna really enjoy it. We're featuring The Grateful Dead from 30 years ago today, July 29th 1994 at Buckeye Lake, Ohio It's kind of a funky venue in Ohio
I was never there but my good friends John and Marnie went a couple of times and they really loved it. We just never made it out there. But this was the show 30 years ago and The Dead was in a rare frame of mind that night and here's what they opened with.
Larry (03:28.542)
That that is rain that is the Beatles That's a One of their well -known songs rain They came out that night and just decided they were gonna have a lot of fun with everybody and There it was John Lennon wrote most of the song. It was the first song to get really deep Exploring the themes of reality and illusion for him after all rain or shine is just a state of mind as he liked to say
he just said he wrote the song about people moaning about the weather all the time as he was becoming more into with his role as a social leader as is evidenced by the lines i can show you and can you hear me this was the first song to use a tape played backwards which created the strange audio effect john discovered the technique we put the tape for tomorrow never knows on backwards he was stoned at the time of the producer george martin had to convince him that using a backward recording for the entire song was a bad idea
Rain was mixed from Otto on April 16th 1966 following an uninterrupted 11 -hour overdub and mix -down session Singles were not issued in stereo at that time and the song did not appear on any album So no stereo mix was made until December 2nd 1969 when the song was ready to be included on the US compilation of the LP Hey Jude which was kind of a an album that came out at the end and
picked up a bunch of these types of songs that had been played by the Beatles, but hadn't been recorded in any one particular place yet. When it came out as a single on May 30th, 1966, it was the B -side to the A -side paperback writer, another memorable Beatles tune from that era. one that didn't quite make the albums came out as a good single, so not unlike some Grateful Dead songs in that regard.
but this was just another one you know that is as they would farther along into the late eighties and then well into the nineties there they love the beetles and they played the beetles a lot if you ever read the electric kool -aid acid test there is a whole section of there where they talk about how ken kesey and the mary pranksters and some of the guys from the dead all went to see the beetles when they came to san francisco i think in nineteen sixty six and
Larry (05:56.152)
you the deals with this big huge pop thing and so they all felt like they had to go speed up and it's very interesting to hear different people in the group talk about the Beatles a lot of the very pranksters were kind of flat about it because you know the Beatles were just came out and basically ripped through their songs the way they sounded on the album and the concert was about an hour you know they kind of questioned it but some of the guys in the dead and kesey you
was the Beatles for them it was like this whole big
Cultural thing is you know as music moved along But either way It's well known that they were big fans of the Beatles. They play the Beatles a lot. In fact We're gonna hear another Beatles song in this concert, which I don't recall the dead doing very often if at all But meanwhile as far as rain is concerned the band played at 29 times It was first played on December 2nd 1992 at the McNichol Sports Arena in Denver, Colorado
And it was last played on June 3rd, 1995 at Three Rivers Stadium in Pittsburgh. So they liked it, you know, and over the last three years they got it in just about 10 times a year there. we heard it a couple of times. It was always fun. know, the singing isn't, Beatle -esque, but you know, I give Jerry credit for doing it. And I think a big part of this push with the Beatles too, lot of the credit for that has to go to Vince Wellnick, because he was also the force behind Baba O 'Reilly into Tomorrow Never Knows.
and some other songs you can hear him sing along with jerry in that show and on this tune and you know just having a great time and i i think that that's fun for these guys you know they reach a point in their career where sure they have all their songs but it's kind of fun to play you know rock and roll oldies and and you know gold like the beetles anything they touched right and so it's it's a nice it's a nice effect for the fans
Larry (07:51.828)
everybody comes in typically expecting you know any of your standard openers and Instead you get rain and you're treated to something pretty amazing and that's a lot of fun now Being the dead they immediately followed out of rain and to feel like a stranger Which of course is another opener and then they followed straight from that into Bertha Which is yet another opener and they followed from that into the tune We're gonna play in a second, but these are just all openers and they just threw them all out there Maybe they couldn't decide which one they wanted to play
So they said we're gonna have a little bit of fun with all of them. I remember talking to good friends John and Marty about the show afterwards and they really loved it. And Buckeye Lake was just an interesting place, just a big, huge field. And they'd come out there and they'd play and one year it rained and one year it was really hot. But you know, it was summer and we were young and we didn't care. We were seeing the Grateful Dead and everybody really enjoyed it. And the band clearly enjoyed it too and they
Definitely having a good time with all of this. So I feel like we've been featuring birth a lot lately feel like a stranger We've talked about a few times. So it's nice to get the rain in there But then as I say the the fourth tune of the show Was also another song that I've seen them open with many a time and is really a lot of fun and let's listen to
Larry (10:49.486)
Wang Gang Doodle, we featured the song on the show before. It's a blues song written by Willie Dixon. Music critic Mike Rowe calls it a party song in an urban style with its massive rolling exciting beat. It was first recorded by Holland Wolf in 1960 and released by Chess Records in 1961. In 65, Dixon and Leonard Chess persuaded Coco Taylor to record it for Checker Records, a Chess subsidiary. Taylor's rendition quickly became a hit, reaching number 13 on the Billboard R &B chart.
number 58 on the pop chart. Wang Dang Doodle became a blues standard and has been recorded by various artists. Taylor's version was added to the United States National Recording Registry in 19, excuse me, in 2023. In 1995, Taylor's rendition was inducted into the Blues Foundation Hall of Fame in the Classics of Blues Recording, Singles or Albums Tracks category. The foundation noted that the song was the last blues single produced by Dixon to reach the record charts.
and became Coco Taylor's signature crowd pleaser, inspiring sing -alongs to the all -night long refrain, Night After Night. Taylor's version of Wang Dang Doodle was selected by the Library of Congress for preservation in the National Recording Registry in 2023. Now, just as quick aside, Coco Taylor was a regular at Chicago's Blues Clubs, and our group saw her a couple of times at some of the Blues Clubs, mostly on the north side of the city.
but you know in other locales as well and when she would belt out wing ding do it was just great night i had heard her sing it before i heard the dead sing it and you know when the dead saying it too was just it's a very cool combination of all these you know different elements coming together a grateful dead show no interestingly chuck berry bruce hornsby john popper blues traveler bob weir and willy dixon starter shirley dixon
performed Wang Dang Doodle in tribute to Willie Dixon at the 1994 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony. In his autobiography, I Am the Blues, Willie Dixon says, Wang Dang Doodle meant a good time, especially if a guy came in from the South. The Wang Dang men having a ball and a lot of dancing, they called it a rockin' style. So hard, that's what it's meant to Wang Dang Doodle. Wang Dang Doodle was first performed by the Grateful Dead on August 26, 1983 at the Portland Memorial Coliseum.
Larry (13:08.974)
in Portland, Oregon. This song was only played a few times each year through the rest of the 80s. From 91 onwards, it was performed more often, averaging about 15 performances of a year through 1995. In total, The Dead played it 95 times, as we said, first on August 26, 83. And the last time they played it was July 8, 1995, at Soldier Field in Chicago. So right up until the very end. And that was not uncommon. It was a song that we would frequently hear in Chicago.
you know as the as the boys played tribute to the chicago blues scene and it was always a lot of fun a real crowd pleaser and a great way to start a concert or sometimes would show up kind of earlier in the first set in our show today it's the fourth song kind of jokingly the fourth opener of the first four songs they played since they all kind of have that groove and yeah you know i mean
you get somebody like coco taylor you get somebody like jerry we already know that the dead love to cover willy dixon to as we talked about that a lot last week as well this is just another example and just a lot of fun it shows the the depth of the range of the grateful dead as musicians as singers as kind of you know music aficionados we've talked about how so much of their musicals repertoire is just as a foundation of
of these early songs by early black singers, by early white singers, by early every kind of singers and musicians. And they were such fans of it all that they kind of pulled it together in their own unique way. And that's what we call the Grateful Dead. So this was very, very cool, great tune to hear, a lot of fun. And they're just rocking along with it. Now, we are going to take a brief moment here. Not so brief, because we got a lot to talk about. And we're going to shift our way over.
to music news and what's going on with that so dan what he'll lead us into our musical segment
Larry (15:34.894)
Rock and roll fantasy boy. Once again Dan picking out the tunes. It takes me back to high school days Song by British rock band Bad Company It was written by vocalist Paul Rogers and released as the first single from the group's 1979 studio album Desolation Angels. I've got that lying around somewhere It was one of Bad Company's best -known songs and has become a staple of classic rock radio Yeah, when we when that came out we had all heard of Bad Company and it was just it's a it's a fun tune, know nice
pop -catchy tune, got some good hooks in it, and got a ton of airplay on FM radio, certainly in St. Louis, I'm guessing in a lot of other places. It was inspired by a guitar synthesizer riff that Paul Rogers had come up with. While not the band's highest charting single in America, it is their best -selling, heaven -bent certified gold in the United States. Bad Company was an English rock supergroup, was formed in London in 1973 by singer Paul Rogers.
drummer Simon Kirk, both formerly of the band Free, guitarist Mick Ralphs, formerly of Mott the Hoople, and bassist Boz Burel, formerly of King Crimson. Kirk was the only member to remain throughout the band's entire run, while he and Ralphs were the only members to appear on every studio album. Peter Grant, who managed the rock band Led Zeppelin, also managed Bad Company until 1992. So this is a band that was just known for great music. You can still hear a lot of their music today.
and a another very appropriate and fun choice for us by By Dan, so thank you for that Okay, let's roll into music news. And when I say music news what I really mean is fish because I've just been Submerged in two nights four sets a couple of on course and just some outstanding music with a ton of shows still to go and that's
you know it's like when you're on your first day of vacation you stop and you realize boy had such a great time today and it's only the first day of vacation you know the last two nights i've been kinda struck by the end of both nights thinking boy these are both fantastic shows i've got another show tonight in saint louis coming up this week and then eventually monday green in in dot dover delaware in august and that's just gonna be just a good summer of fish and you know i don't know if i'll ever do it again or ever be able to do it again but i'm doing it right now
Larry (17:55.852)
and it's just great so let's touch base alpine valley and first of all let me just say how cool it is but to continue to go back to alpine valley such a a venue during my formative years of the grateful dead were from eighty four through eighty nine there was always a summer journey up to alpine valley eighty four they played two shows after that it was three shows every year except for eighty eight when they played four shows they loved it the fans loved it
and it was it's just a beautiful venue up in a a very picturesque area of wisconsin with rolling hills green and you can kind of see the the faust ski slope in the background where people other than like dan hummiston rob hunt who would never be cut dead skiing in a place like alpine valley but for the rest of us midwesterners you know that we have to go to to capture our skiing thrills when colorado or california some of those other places toho
just aren't in the offing. That's where we go to get in our, our quote unquote, skiing. But for us, it's just been a wonderful place of so many happy memories, seeing so many great shows there. And it's wonderful to be going back still and seeing fish and more importantly, seeing it with my boys. My son Jonathan and I went to the first two nights and we just really had a great time doing that. Last night, Jonathan and I went again and we spent a lot of time up on the lawn because my oldest son Matthew was in town.
visiting his good buddy Jason who's in from Israel for a few weeks and Jason's a fish fan having originally come from the United States but moved Israel many years back but still keeping in touch with all the great music and he's a huge fan. Our good buddy Zdub, Seth was there. Zdub was there, Seth was there which means if he's there he's not in my house stealing my dilly bars out of my freezer which is okay. Max from New York
Daniel and excuse me Donnie L and Josh were there and Josh Steinberg from originally from Indiana Love him because he's a big Cardinal fan and these are all guys who I've known most of them forever because they were all Good buddies with my son growing up. Some of them live right down the street in the neighborhood Some of them we become really good friends with their parents max is the outlier in that he's from New York,
Larry (20:22.074)
through the whole fish crowd. We've gotten to know Max very well too. He was at Matthew's wedding, which was a lot of fun and it was great to get to hang out with all of these guys at a show and really kind of take it in from their perspective, you know. And what I found is it's not that much different from the way my buddies and I were when we were all trekking out to Alpine to see the dead show after show and just have a great time with it. And so it was very nice to get to be with all of those guys.
A few of the guys in that group are going to be joining at Mondagreen and that's going to be excellent. And so really, really excited about all of it. So let's talk about these shows for a minute. So the Friday night show, you know, Friday night, first show of a three night run, everybody's there, you kind of, you know, lot of energy in the crowd waiting to see what's going to happen. Boys came out pretty much just a few minutes after 7 .30. They've been very consistent in their starting times.
about an hour and a half after the doors open and they walked right out, plugged in and just started playing. Took everybody off with a 46 Days, which is a fun tune. One of those songs that I'm familiar with, not one that was necessarily at the top of my list of songs I wanted to hear, but just well played, about 10 minutes and they really cranked on it. And then they went into Momodance, which I do happen to like a lot and I love the whole Monda Green.
aspect of that, right? Are they saying the moment ends or moment dance? And if you listen very carefully, sometimes you just can't tell. Then they played The Well, which is a song that I was not particularly familiar with, but very well played, and to my friend, My Friend, a song that I do know, and enjoyed Brian and Robert, a song that I'm familiar with, but I have to confess, I did not recognize while they were playing it, but somebody was kind enough to clue me in, and that was enjoyable. Then they went into Llama,
only the second time i think i've ever heard lama it's kind of a funny frenetic song with wild lyrics lama taboo taboo whatever all that means who the hell knows but they know or maybe they don't and that's just fun from lama they went in to cities which prompted me to have to pick up the phone call my good buddy alex who's on you know a source of so much good musical knowledge for me
Larry (22:38.826)
to out if Fish ever figured out that the Talking Heads were covering their song. That's a little inside joke because the first time I talked with Alex about playing Cities, he reminded me that it was a Talking Heads song. I always like to kind of throw back at him to say, yes, I learned my lesson and I know. It was a great song, though. They play it really, really well. And right when they dive into it, it's just instantly recognizable. In fact, I do immediately recognize it as a Talking Heads song.
and it takes me two seconds longer to figure out which talking head song it is, they've got that beat, that sound. They really, really play it well, and it was just a wonderful version of Cities. In T .R., a crowd pleaser stash, which I thought was gonna be the set closer and a song I really, really like, and they really jammed through it well. And then they turned a corner and surprised us and dropped in a cavern as well. So we had a first set.
that was just about an hour and half from seven forty two nine ten and you know what i always like about fish and the dead it's not that i like it but it it's just it it fascinates me they come on stage they start playing in before you know what the sun is over and you know they've been up there for an hour and a half and i i just lose all track of time while that's happening we don't which to me is it obviously a credit to them right the music is so great
you're so focused on it and just having a wonderful time. know, it's where there's other bands I've gone to see from time to time and you know, not that I'm bored. I certainly enjoy seeing all bands, but if it's in a crowded venue or it's really hot or you know, they run into a stretch of songs where I'm just not as familiar. Sometimes I'll find myself looking at my phone just to see what time it is and you know, I will confess there's been some nights where time seemed to just really drag along, but time never drags at a fish show. Time never
edit that show they're over much too fast in you know just as your first getting into the real jam it feels like other coming out on the back end and and closing it down and so it was just a wonderful wonderful for set and then another factor that's been consistent the first two nights that i just love is the set breaks were only about thirty minutes long and and and this was just same thing they walked off the stage in ninety six or right back out there at nine thirty five
Larry (25:01.87)
jumped into the second set with axilla a Song that I'm familiar with but hadn't heard very much and very much enjoyed and then dropped into down with disease and down with disease and bathtub gin and Sometimes rebar songs that at least the way I hear them. I hear them as all being somewhat not Similar but but in a same genre a same type of song Yeah with a lot of really hard jamming and the down with disease did not disappoint they really cranked out on that and they were
time, then they went into Mercury, a song that I recognize from hearing but don't have any recollection of having seen them play it before, but that was a lot of fun. Taste is great. then Trey dropped into a ghost, and Ghost is like one of those songs that I've really come to know really well. And I kind of like the fact that some of these songs, the minute they drop the first note, everybody around me is screaming, my god, it's this, it's this, it's this.
There are some fish songs where I'm good at that, some where I'm not so good at it. Ghost is one where I'm good at it. It's interesting for me because it doesn't always sound exactly the same when they lead into it. I've heard it with a few slightly different intros, but yet there's something about the way they're doing it that just says to me they're going into Ghost. And they did. And that was about a 10 minute jam. And Trey just really tearing it up and having a great time. Then they went into Limb by Limb.
followed by silent in the morning and then for the closer of the second set song they've been known to play from time to time but i had not heard them do it yet led zeppelin's good times bad times and i have to say are they nail it they just play it really really well and again it it has a little bit of a zeppelin ask sound to it did you know the i'm not gonna say that it's jimmy page and john paul jones and the boys out there
cranking it out but it just did you could be excuse for thinking that you you were listening to a different era of lead zeppelin playing the song because they they just have although again you know the notes the the solos the hooks everything you know these guys would they would they cover another band you know they do a really good job of it they don't just throw it out there and still let's see what happens so finally
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Again about another hour and a half later right before 11 o 'clock the band walks off the stage Excuse me Excuse me hard to do a lot of talking after two nights in a fish. Good thing. I'm not trying to do this after three nights For the encore they came out they played contact which is a fun song kind of a silly song but fun nonetheless and
You know just one that they clearly enjoy playing and Mike Gordon really enjoys and that was great And then they didn't disappoint and they came back with a really really solid run like an antelope to close out the night That itself, you know was probably about a 10 -minute adventure Maybe a little bit longer and you know, they were really stretching it out in some points
and it's nice you know you see them up there you know with the confidence of look you know we're so well known we've done all this we just play this tune the way we want to play it tonight and just kind of jam through it and you know every time you hear a fish song it sounds a little bit different than the last time you heard it which is you know not different from the way it was with the Grateful Dead and certainly one of those things that keeps you going back and going back because it's fun to hear each time how they decide to play their song what parts that they're gonna emphasize what they're gonna do
run like an antelope and they sent us all out into the night. My son Jonathan and I got in and drove back to his place in the Mundelein area and I have to say Waze is a beautiful thing if you don't have Waze, if you haven't used Waze, if you're one of those people who still think you know how to do it best, get Waze for God's sakes. I have now driven up and back from Alpine Valley, up twice and back twice for the first two shows and haven't found any traffic at all.
they're taking me through back roads in wisconsin some of them i don't even have any idea where i'm at i'm just following ways of holding on for dear life but boy what a treat to you know be able to to venture from you basically the north shore of chicago up to alpine valley with just minimal traffic you know i just think back to the days we were driving up there to see the grateful dead and this was way before there was any ways or gps or even you know cell phones basically and
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you we all knew you took 94 up to 50 and you took 50 west to Lake Geneva and then you took 12 north to 45 or whatever the other one is and then you got off in East Troy and started looking for all the cops and you know and but nobody all the back roads were there but nobody really knew them so everybody went these ways we'd hit traffic on 94
just getting off of ninety four on the fifty that traffic could back up for half a mile or more sometimes and then you have these long line of cars going down fifty that at some points gets up to fifty five miles an hour but a lot of times drops down to thirty miles an hour with stop signs and lights and all of this and you know it could just be a brutal brutal drive getting there and even getting back although the crowd would disperse pretty quickly
you there's a lot of people driving back down to the Chicago area so there was always a lot of cars doing that you know with this Waze man, nothing and I've used Waze you know all sorts of places I just don't go up to Alpine Valley enough you know to really use it you know in a way where I'm really thinking about it but I was driving and it was just amazing it was just so wonderful to be able to get in and get out and all of that and even though they kind of screwed everybody because they sold a VIP parking
which I've decided at this stage of my life I'm all in on. The advantage is that you get out really quick, but for some reason there was a screw up scheduling with the Alpine Valley Lodge this year and they were not letting cars exit out down the little road that takes you down to the lodge and then zips you right out through the lodge's exit and entrance. We had a circle back because VIP you're all the way down in the front and the exits all the way in the back.
We managed to get out in a reasonable amount of time not terrible not quite as fast as we would have liked but we were really in no hurry and just kind of hanging out and crowd watching and everything and Got back to Jonathan's place as good. He good buddy Brendan was there hanging out watching the dog because Johnny's fiance was out with friends and family for a night or two and Hung out had some pizza watch some stupid family guy Got stoned a little bit more and then just all passed out and said it's time to go to bed
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And then yesterday was just one of those like I'm on tour days because I'm not at home and Get the podcast started to get that ready try to bounce back and recover because I'm not as young as I used to be and So, you know, it takes a little bit longer to Especially in the knees and the hips a little bit roll them out on one of those rollers get some China gel
thanks to good buddy Aaron the trainer who turned me onto that years ago which really makes a difference on those knees for old folk like us and really a lot of fun but after all of that Johnny and I were ready for night two last night we drove back up there as I said my son Matthew was there with his whole crowd and we met up with them on the lawn and really at the end of the day just wound up watching the whole show and like I say it was just so much fun to be around that crew and you know think back to 30 plus years ago and
when i was their agent i was out there with all of my buddies and you know we were having all the fun like they're having now and it's just a wonderful times you know they're they're kind of past the college years a lot of her married some of them like matthew have kids and yet you know they're still finding the time to all get together this was really beautiful to start their buddy jason was in from israel of visiting family and friends and bring his daughter in his lovely new son rafi who everybody got to meet and so people had come into town to see him and
Jason, like I said, is a huge fish fan. So we're like, we'll just all go see fish for a night. And just like that, they pulled it all together. They got their tickets. And one thing I'll say that was surprising was that fish did not sell out either night. In other words, you could walk up to the box office and buy lawn tickets right up to showtime. And that's maybe a pondering for another day. Are people getting exhausted of fish? Was it because it was an Alpine Valley and people didn't want to drive all the way up
you know as opposed to you know shows that are more in the city like it really field or when they play united center or the rosebud i wasn't complaining because it kept the crowd very reasonable in the lawn was was more than enough room about plenty of room plenty of elbow room you can kind of bounce around on the line if you were so inclined to miss and jonathan had one of those big light sticks and he was twirling around a mile a minute with a little newfound energy and
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You know everybody was just having a great time It was just a wonderful place to be my only complaint and this is an old guy complaint but it's a really really really steep hill on the lawn and You know standing there looking downhill You know work the calf muscles really good but you know not gonna lie the feet kept slipping force in my shoes and I had to keep stopping and you know knocking them back because they you can only have your resting up on your toes like that for so long, but
while while while you know this does a my complaints i love the fact that i'm still there sixty going strong and having a good time see it and last night was again well worth it to come back with the boys they came out and open with sample in a jar which is it fun to and i kind of you know it it's more of a pop tune for them you know with with a lot of more lyrics in the few more musical hooks that then you know some of their longer more jammed out tunes but a very fun to and and
you know one that you can kind of pick up the words to the more you hear it so you know it's fun it's energetic the crowd reacts and everybody has a great time with it although they went to hailey's comet and hailey's comet was definitely one of those fish songs that you acquire it's an acquired taste over time you know the first time you hear it and they're just spelting out hailey's comet hailey's comet about twenty times in a row when you're trying to figure out okay got it hailey's what the hell else and then they dive in and it's a song
that's at the top of the list of just absolutely crazy nonsensical fish lyrics. And it makes it fun. And it's part of my development and my growth of fish that, unlike the dead with fish, the lyrics typically aren't always as significant to your enjoyment of the song. Sometimes they are, certainly with some of the songs. But a song like Haley's Comet, the words kind
help make the song and provide a foundation for it much more than the song being about the particular lyrics it's just it's crazy it's not it's funny if you're in the right frame of mind it's even hysterical but they really love it and they really jam through it they went into birds of a feather which is a a well -played in and i don't say frequently played song but certainly you know a song that i've seen a couple of times as i now enter into
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I tried to sit down and count it the other night. think I'm getting very close to 20 fish shows. And it may very well be that by the time I'm done with this run, I'm going to be over 20. In fact, I'd say that's a pretty good guess. It's interesting. I don't have the exact number like I do with the dead. But I'm a little fuzzy on a couple of years where I can't find ticket stubs. But I thought for sure I was at shows. So I'm still working it out. But someday, hopefully, I'll have a solid list of that, I do of my 100 plus dead shows, which it seems like I could go down the list and almost tell you each and every one.
some memory of them just because that's the impact it had on me. But after Birds of a Feather, they played Mountains in the Mist, a very lovely song, kind of a mellow tune into foam, which was fun. And then doing what they do so well, playing covers that it's not so unusual anymore to hear them, but it's always fun to hear which of the covers they dive into. And last night we got Moonage Daydream from David Bowie and just a wonderful, wonderful song.
course Bowie is an amazing performer, was an amazing performer, we saw him a few times and he never failed to put on a great show and just entertain and these guys really have a love of David Bowie and they cover a number of his tunes and again while they're playing it they just have that kind of like background sound to the music that was so Bowie -esque that it was wonderful and they came out
On the back end of it with this really, really strong 5 to 10 minute jam with Trey just tearing it up in a way that you can see that he's just clearly enjoying it. Having so much fun, the crowd's eating it up. Everybody had a great time with it. Then they dropped into the song My Soul. Nice tune. And then into Lizards, which is fun. I like Lizards. It's
it's you know the game hedge tune it's it's kind of campy on the one hand but on the other hand it's just it's fun and when they get to the the chorus and everything and everybody starts kind of just bouncing around while they're singing it and at raise up on stage bouncing around while he's playing and singing it and everyone just has a good time and i've i've seen it now a couple of times i saw it for the first time at alpine a couple years ago and got to see it again and
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It's fun and you know, it's not the same as seeing it the first time, you know that kind of initial excitement but it is fun because you get the sense that when they're playing it they're having a great time on stage and it really gets the crowd going and then because they're fish and you know, they're situationally aware they closed out the set with their song David Bowie which is another wonderful jamming tune that just goes on and on and on and
Of the only lyrics are David Bowie and then on the second time around, UB40. They both have the same, I guess, sequence so it fits in very nicely with the way they're singing the song. It's a great jammer. You can tell that it's gonna be a set closer because how much energy they pour into it. They did not disappoint last night. It was just wonderful. They finally closed it out.
And it checked in at just about the Senate hour and 45 minutes, so about 10 minutes shorter than the night before. But so well played that nobody was really complaining at all. And then again, very consistently, they took just about a 30 minute break, just enough time to run to the bathroom, grab a drink, and get back up on the lawn. And at that point, Johnny and I had decided we were just going to hang out with the boys for the rest of the night.
because it had gotten crowded enough, not again necessarily in our area, but navigating your way out of the lawn onto the pavilion where you could go to buy drinks and then getting to that area and then getting down into the seating pavilion was just very crowded and not an area you wanted to walk through multiple times if you didn't have to. And we were all having a great time and they came out, like I say, half an hour later, dived into Sigma Oasis, which
is a tune that I'm just really learning. A little controversial because it has the line about take off your mask. And when they first played it a couple years ago, right on the tail end of the pandemic, there were people who were masking at fish shows that didn't like the fact that they were playing a song that seemed to suggest that fish was anti -masking. I don't think that that was their intent. And now when they sing it, nobody really thinks about it because nobody's masking these days.
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Even though COVID is still out there as I know because I just had it a couple of weeks ago But nevertheless, it was a fun tune But here's the thing about the simple and this is what really makes fish. I think very unique The song itself is anywhere from about seven to ten minutes and the other times when I've seen it It's played seven to ten minutes. Maybe sometimes they kick it out to 15 minutes. Well folks last night We were treated to a 41 minute simple
They came out, they opened with Sigma Oasis at 9 .10. They played it just for about five to seven minutes. And then they dived into Simple. And the opening part of it, the lyrics and everything, all sounded very normal. And then they started jamming, which all sounded very normal. And then I realized that they were still kind of jamming. And OK, and then a little bit more. And then we headed into the Type 2 jam where
from the Deadhead world again, a type two jam was when you forget the song that they're playing in the middle of the jam and I found myself pulling out my phone a couple of times to make sure that I hadn't missed something and that they were still in Simple. There gets to be a point in a jam like this, I think, where the crowd catches on and realizes that they're really jamming this one out much farther down the road than they normally do. what I like about Phish is that they will do this periodically and they will do it with different songs. Sure, they have some songs.
that you know are going to be really long jams and really hang out there, although typically not 41 minutes. But Simple was just not a song I would have pegged at the time for them to jam out so long on. So in that respect, it was a little bit surprising for me. But by the same token, I got to be in this situation where you kind of recognize, wow, OK, now you say, let's see how far they're going to take this. And again, you kind of slip back into the groove.
just going on and on and on and then you stop for a second like nope still simple nope still simple and Like I say it clocked in just somewhere around 41 42 minutes in length And you know, that's great it's kind of hard to you know come up with it with a with a direct dead comparison but you know, I guess you could say imagine if they took a tune like West LA fadeaway, which is a great tune and has you know, some stomach extended jams on
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But if they took that song and played it out 41 minutes, if it's playing in the band, you're like, yeah, sure, Dark Star, well, of course they're going to play it out that long. Or they could play it out that long. Not that they always did, but it certainly wouldn't be a surprise. But Brown Eyed Woman, if all of a sudden they took Brown Eyed Woman and they just back ended, jammed it out for that long, and then very quickly at the very end, dive back in to sing the final chorus one last time.
i think they would really catch dead heads off guard because there were some songs that we just never anticipated or expected to be jammed out we just always assume those were the shorter songs to kind of sing along songs you know as opposed to the really long jam band acid trippy kind of stuff that they would do but here they were two songs into the second set they'd already been on stage for over forty five minutes and you know the next thought is maybe this is going be one of those nights where they only play like five second set songs
and but they came out they played a a few more and it was wonderful they went into a song the howling which i had heard before had a great moment where all the fans of the crowd started howling back at them and you know almost so loud that you know they were overpowering the band sound and you know instead of fighting back the band just kind of slipped into a nice little groove that played in right with what the crowd was doing trey was having a good time and smiling mike gordon was having a good time and smiling
fishes back to just doing his thing like he always does and page man he's just he's just tear up those keyboards what what talent he is in how amazing that is a similar from the holiday to a wave of hope into life boy three -song plot there that those those were fish songs and i knew very well or you know was able to to recognize on my own without a little help from all the crowd i was with matthew and the boys who you know no everything
and but they were all fun they were really really great and then they immediately slipped into sand which i recognize very well and sand is a tune that i'm kind of having a little bit of a love affair with it's a great jamming tune the silly lyrics and all of that and it's just something that's fun for me because i i know it i know it well and i'm ready ready to be able to
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to jam right along with them and they extended that one out a few minutes. So it came in at about 15 minutes or so and really just a lot of fun. And then they closed out the set with Golgi Apparatus, which is the oldest song that Trey wrote with a bunch of his high school buddies back in high school. if you ever took, I don't know if it's biology or whatever, and you study the Golgi Apparatus, and I can't even remember what it was, but we all remember laughing at the name when we were in high school.
it it's it's you know it's it's it's just like a quick little fish i was a throwaway song because they clearly like it but you know just kinda one day they drop in there at the end of the set sometimes and you know they play it well the crowd reacts to it because it's it's so well -known and such a part of the band's history and their their songbook and all of that and so it was fun and they they gave us just about another ninety minutes at of
great tremendous music and the fact that forty of the ninety minutes were taken up with simple kind of made it cool and everybody was really jamming on it and they really nailed it. They came back out for the encore just a couple of minutes later and opened with Esther, a song that I do know, can't tell you that it's one of my favorites, it's kind of a happy silly song and they enjoy playing it and then they jumped into Character Zero which is a very very good song I think, it's got great rock and roll chords on it
it's got great lyrics it's got a lot of energy and it's probably the song i've heard more than any other fish song from all the shows i go to is like i catch all the characters zeros but now i can say well maybe that's the last one for the next couple of nights and you know i won't be catching it every third show or something like that it's not a terrible show trying to catch every third show but there's still enough fish tunes out there that i'm chasing that i haven't caught yet you know that you feel like you'd like to hear one of them every now and then as well
no complaints a great show everyone had a ball jason enjoyed it and was psyched that he got to catch a show while he was in the states the whole crowd of of matthews buddies really who put it up and enjoying it very much jonathan like that i like that we all made our way out of there you know walking up that hill which is so steep much deeper than i always remember it being in you know after standing on the hill downhill all night
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gives us a good little bit of exercise at the end of the evening. Got in the car and hopped out as fast as we could given the fact that they had screwed us all into no VIP exits. But we did make it out. And all in all, folks, it was a wonderful, wonderful two nights of fish at a legendary venue. And I'm very excited because I'm getting picked up in about two hours from now when I'm taping the show. And I'm heading back up there for night three and all the action that goes along with it. Snow.
the other music news that i do want to mention today that i think is really really important is we recently lost john maile and he's known as the godfather of the the british blues i had a band called blues breakers i'd never heard of them till good buddy mikey turned me on to him and bought one of his albums and just listen to it over and over and over and over again because it's a great songs great music
great people playing with him and just some some well here you'll hear about this is some of the people he played was an incredible but he died one week ago he was ninety years old among fans and organizations posting condolences was a rock and roll hall of fame which is inducting him into its ranks this october the halls committee had selected this year to be ushered in under the musical influence award
along with Alex Corner and Big Mama Thornton. No cause of death was given, although it did refer to Mayall's recent health setbacks and announced that he did pass away at his home surrounded by his loving family and that they just basically said that health issues had forced John to end his epic touring career have finally led to peace for one of this world's greatest road warriors. Mayall, who's keening
Jazz -inflected tenor vocals reflected the heavy influence of the American singer, Mos Alice, in front of this group, known variously as Blues Breakers, or two words or Blues Breakers, one word in its earlier incarnation, on keyboard, harmonic, and occasional guitar, and penned dozens of original songs. Among the players he brought into his bands were such legends, and listen to this group, Eric Clapton, Peter Green of Fleetwood Mac, Mick Taylor of the Rolling Stones, Jack Bruce,
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John McVie of Fleetwood Mac, McFleetwood of Fleetwood Mac, and legendary drummer Ainsley Dunbar. He was perhaps best known in America for the song Room to Move, a staple on FM radio in the early 1970s. That was the song Mayle ultimately chose to end his touring career with at the close of his final concert, which took place on March 26, 2022 at the Coach House in San Juan, Capistrano, California. Many of the blues masters who paved the way for Mayle
Remember, Formile offered him praise for his keeping the genre in the limelight. John Mayle, was the master of it, said B .B. King, saying that if it weren't for him and other blues musicians of his prime era putting their own spin on the blues, a lot of us black musicians in America would still be catching the hell we caught long before. Musicians attested to what it meant to play for Mayle. As far as being a blues guitarist sideman, the blues breaker's gig is the pinnacle. That's Mount Everest, said Walter Trout. You could play with B .B. King or Buddy Guy,
but you're just gonna play chords all night this song features you you get to play solos he yells your name after every song brings you to the front of the stage and let's you sing he creates a place for you in the world and just so much talent and when you see that and how wonderful and where all this goes when Clapton exited blues breakers he went on to found the rock group super
supergroup cream with bassist Jack Bruce who had also been playing with him with mail along with drummer Ginger Baker Like we said when when Peter Green dropped out he formed Fleetwood Mac with Mick Fleetwood and John McVee and on males recommendation teenage phenom Taylor wound up replacing Brian Jones in the Rolling Stones.
You know if you were a young musician and you were trying to make your way get your chops and establish a name for yourself John male was a good guy To hook up with and I'm sure we don't have enough time to really feature some of his music today And maybe we will somewhere down the road Because it's just so exceptional there's so many great old bits that have been written about him that you can find on the internet and Each one of them, you know, they all cover a lot of the same things, but each one of them brings in a
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a new story and a different story about him that's just really really cool and fun to see and it's a shame like I say as you know as we lose rock and roll legends but condolences to John's family to the musical world that all knew him and loved him to all the guys that you know got to get their lucky breaks and play with him and learn and grow from him and be launched into rock and roll stardom and these are just amazing stories
you know when you hear these names and the people that he was involved with there's not a lot of folks like him left so we really have to cherish the moments that we have with them and take the time to really appreciate them. Speaking of appreciating the moments we're going to go back to 30 years ago today to Buckeye Lake Ohio and towards the end of the first set we're going to play the very very very tail end of Althea into one of the new tunes.
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So it's a funny story and there's a bunch of funny stories attached to this eternity was one of the new tunes Bobby new tune that was never particularly well received by the deadheads, you know, he'd play it We'd all kind of roll along with it. But the reason why I tagged on the very end of Althea Clip there is because you could hear As they're transitioning
the dead I don't know what year they started doing it but they were one of the first bands I saw that had this onstage communication system where they could step on a pedal on stage and speak into the microphone and everybody else the guys on the stage could hear it through their little earpieces so if they wanted to talk about what song to play or this or that but every now and then they'd make a mistake and they'd forget to step on the pedal and you could hear Bobby throwing out suggesting should we go into eternity and the crowds all yelling no no no you know because it it just wasn't
one of the favorites but they played anyway and you know once they start playing everybody settles down and and really has a good time with it now this was interesting because bobby kind of co -wrote this song with willie dixon so he says it was like a dream come true dixon was one of the preeminent blues songwriters and performers we've talked about all the songs the dead cover of his including down at the bottom i ain't superstitious i just want to make love to you little red rooster
The same thing, Spoonful, Wang Dang Doodle, he could have been considered another member of The Dead or a number writer for The Dead, just given how many of their songs that they played. So Bobby said that he had this chord progression and melody that I wanted to run by Willie to see if he liked it. He did, so he started dashing off words.
He wanted me to run a certain section by him again and stuff like that and we started working on a bridge. Then he dashes off this sheet of lyrics and hands it to me. Now I'm really stoked to be working with the legendary Willie Dixon and I'm prepared for just about anything. He hands me these lyrics and I'm reading through them and they seem, you know, awfully simplistic. Like there wasn't a whole lot to them. Now he wants me to read through it and sing the melody I have and see if they fit. And so I started singing through these simplistic lyrics and that simplicity takes on a whole other direction.
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by the time i had something through them it's like my head is suddenly eons wide i can hear what's happening just sort of echoing around in there and i started by the simple grace of what he's just presented to me i'm sitting there with my mouth open literally and willies laughing he's just sit there laughing and saying now you see it now you see it that's the wisdom of the blues great story still not one of our favorite songs but worth just for you know for that little moments of honesty from the dead heads
and you know bobby saying well i hear you but that's okay it's my tune i'm gonna play it anyway and he did wind up playing at forty four times first on february twenty first nineteen ninety three at the oakland alameda county coliseum in oakland and then right up to the very end july eight nineteen ninety five at soldier field in chicago was last time it was played and you know it's interesting about this is when you see the dead in various stages you know as the dead on the
50th anniversary shows or you know as dead in company They cover a lot of Jerry tunes a lot of Jerry new tunes, you know I've talked about how like they cover Liberty which isn't one of my favorite tunes But they play they never cover any of these Bobby tunes. I don't think I've I don't think I've heard any of these groups play eternity Once I'm not saying they haven't but if they do it's very very rare and you know people can just take what they want away from that but
You know any song that the dead wrote and played I always gave them credit for and was always happy to hear them play it just because I was always happy to hear them now we're gonna jump in here to another song and The the set close out with a the eternity and then deal Then they come out they open up the second set with foolish heart another new tune and then lo and behold they drop into
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I want to tell you is a song by the English rock band The Beatles from their 1966 album Revolver. was written and sung by George Harrison, the band's lead guitarist. After Tax Man and Love You Too, it was the third Harrison composition recorded for Revolver. Its inclusion on the LP marked the first time he was allocated more than two songs on a Beatles album, a reflection of his continued growth as a songwriter besides John Lennon and Paul McCartney. When writing, want to tell you, Harrison drew inspiration from his experimentation
with LSD. The lyrics addressed what he later termed the avalanche of thoughts that are so hard to write down or say or transmit. In combination with the song's philosophical message, Harrison's stuttering guitar riff and the dissonance he employs in the melody reflect the difficulties of achieving meaningful communication. The recording marked the first time that McCartney played his bass guitar part after the band had completed the rhythm track for a song, a technique that became commonplace on the Beatles' subsequent recordings.
harrison wrote i want to tell you in the early part of nineteen sixty six the year in which is songwriting matured in terms of subject matter and productivity as a secondary composer to lennon mccartney in the beetles he began to establish his own musical identity through his absorption in indian culture as well as the perspective gained again through his experience with l s t according to the author gary tillery the song resulted from a creative surge the harrison experienced at the start of nineteen sixty six in his autobiography i mean mine
Harrison says that I want to tell you addresses the avalanche of thoughts that are so hard to write down. Author Russell Reising and Jim LeBlanc cite the song along with rain and within you without you as early examples of the Beatles abandoning Quoist statements about their lyrics and instead adopting an urgent tone intent on channeling some essential knowledge, the psychological and or philosophical epiphanies of the LSD experience.
got a lot of drugs going on here with the boys we got a lot of experimentation going on with the Beatles and once again you have the Grateful Dead just loving it right and just jamming jamming into another Beatles song and I can't tell you if I remember another song where they played two Beatles tunes in one show they may very well have but I can't recall it and you know that's just a treat whenever they would play the Beatles didn't matter which song it was it was always a lot of fun I love Jerry singing it again his voices
Larry (01:04:11.15)
not very strong on it but I give him credit he's up there singing it and you know they're trying the harmonies out and everything and you know this is the second to last year of the band and again I think they're just looking for some fun things to do I think a lot of this is Vince Welnick influenced they only played it seven times the first on July 1st 1994 at Shoreline and then the final time on May 24th 1995 at Memorial Stadium in Seattle Washington so not a song that
They got a lot of playtime, but when it did, it was very much appreciated by the crowd. And I just always found that the boys were having a fun type and a fun night and getting a little silly and just breaking out some of the music that they love. And as a deadhead, you can't ask for anything more than that. We love all sorts of songs, but hey guys, play us the music you love to play. And when they do, everyone just has a great, great time. So now we're going to dive into some marijuana talk here.
And Dan has some good music for that as well.
Larry (01:05:44.814)
Dan drillin deep again along comes Mary a song composed by Tandon Elmer originally recorded by American Sunshine Pop Band the Association it was the group's first hit released in March 1966 as the lead single prior to their debut album and then along comes the Association which appeared that July The song is sung from the point of view of a once disillusioned young man talking about the tribulations. No one ever sees
who curses those faults in me. The singer believes Mary gives him comfort and improves his life. Both Leonard Bernstein and Tandon Alomar stated that Mary was a reference to marijuana. This association was also prevalent among many of the song's listeners. In the Young People's Concert titled What is a Mode, Leonard Bernstein explained that the song was composed in the Dorian mode. The association is an American Sunshine pop band from California, LA. During the late 1960s, the band had numerous hits at or near
The Billboard charts including Wendy, Cherish, Never My Love, Along Comes Mary, and they were the leadoff band at 1967's Monterey Pop Festival, generally consisting of six to eight members. They're known for intricate vocal harmonies by the band's multiple singers. For us, it's just a fun song that demonstrates how well the musical culture was in align with marijuana back at the time, and how much they like to work it into their songs, sometimes in ways
that were not necessarily obvious to the straights, but the stoners certainly all got it. And with that, we're going to dive into marijuana. And this time, we're going to start on the bad news side, because it's always better to end on the good news side. And we have our friends over there in the GOP just giving us a hard, frequent time thank you to marijuana moment. Says, we have two more congressional lawmakers are joining the ranks of GOP members who are challenging what they say is the unusual process that led the Biden administration to propose rescheduling marijuana, expressing concern.
about how the review was carried out and demanding answers. In a letter sent to Attorney General Merrick Garland and Department of Health and Human Services Secretary Xavier Becara on Thursday, House Energy and Commerce Committee Chair Kathy McMorris Rogers, a Republican from Washington State and subcommittee on health chair Brett Guthrie, a Republican from Kentucky said, the circumstances surrounding this proposed rule are unusual and we are concerned by the process that led to this determination.
Larry (01:08:10.22)
The lawmakers pointed out that prior cannabis scheduling reviews concluded with denials following rigorous analysis of its medical value and abuse potential and they questioned why Health and Human Services adopted a different review standard for cannabis this round moving from a five -factor analysis to a two -factor analysis. While the administration is empowered to alter drug scheduling statuses and Health and Human Services did still account for various scientific considerations in its latest review,
the two congresspeople say we believe there are several unanswered questions and policy gaps and that we would have those addressed after health and human services recommended moving marijuana from schedule one to schedule three of the controlled substances act the justice department declared that this new two -part test is sufficient to establish medical use which is unusual deviation from the typical process letter says adding that they found it further suspect that the dvd itself indicated that it felt more information was needed
before it could accept this rescheduling determination. While moving cannabis to schedule three, when not federally legalized, as the lawmakers said, such a policy would change other state policy and cause more confusion because it's unclear how the federal government would regulate a schedule three substance, which as we've said, should only be dispensed with a valid description. And there are only 24 states that have legalized recreational use for marijuana.
and they also note that the Office of National Drug Control Policy and some DEA administrators have pushed back against cannabis rescheduling. We support research into innovative therapies to improve patient outcomes, but we are concerned with how the normal process was circumvented to achieve results for political purposes, and we have a number of unanswered questions. McMorris, Rogers, and Guthrie said, including the list of specific questions they're asking DOJ and HHS to respond
in a timely manner. First of all, when determining whether marijuana has a medical use, HHS used their O2 factor analysis instead of a five -star. Please provide an example of this method and why. Do DOJ and HHS believe the new two -factor test is appropriate? If it's moved to schedule three, it's our understanding it can only be dispensed by valid prescription and that recreational use would continue to be out of compliance with federal law. So some of these questions
Larry (01:10:30.03)
crazy. And I appreciate the fact that they've zeroed in on this thing that we've been talking about, about Schedule III, how that's not really helping anybody because it's still federally illegal and it can only be dispensed by a pharmacist with a properly written prescription, which no state has these days. But it's this idea of whether it's safe and whether we should really be going ahead with this type of thing and just how safe it is.
senator dog lmao for a republican from california condemning the abidance trip by the administration's push to reclassify marijuana as well as legislative efforts to enact bipartisan cannabis baking reform because it says the policy changes would prop up this immoral industry and give a green light to the evil that comes from drug use not to be outdone senator bill cassidy republican from louisiana also blasted the body administration over what he describes as repeated refusals from federal agencies to brief congress
on its plans and justifications rescheduling marijuana which he argues fuel speculation that the proposed policy change is politically motivated. They say that the government's recommendations are based on politics rather than science. Folks, these are just people who have their heads really really far up their ass. And I'm sorry to say that there's just no other way to say it. This immoral industry. know, Doug, how many drinks do you have every night before you go to bed?
Doug, what do you think about all these codeine type drugs, OxyContin, and all this stuff that's been coming out? Probably a lot of your big donors, certainly big donors to Republican Party, or drug manufacturers that have sold those drugs, and we see what they're doing to society. We see the devastation that they've created in this country. I don't see you calling that in a moral industry. I don't see you calling alcohol in a moral industry. I don't see you calling cigarettes in a moral industry.
I don't see you calling caffeine in the moral industry. All of those substances are shown to be more harmful to the human body than THC. So why do we have to sit here and say that THC is so bad? Well, nobody knows. Nobody can really say. focusing in on that many, again, excuse me, in a companion story,
Larry (01:12:54.636)
This time marijuana moment focuses entirely on the GOP talking about this immoral industry. And we already quoted Representative LaMalfa and the issues he brings to the table. And LaMalfa goes on to say, if enacted, this would increase the use of an already dangerous substance while rescheduling would allow licensed cannabis businesses to take federal tax deductions. We've talked about that getting rid of 280E and what a benefit it is. It also removes
it removes certain research barriers, would not legalize the plant. So it's unclear what he means by suggesting it would increase usage rates. It's already being used by so many people. model also claimed, contrary to prior research, that California has the highest rate of marijuana users. If he meant number of consumers, that might be explained by the fact that the state has the greatest population in the nation. But in terms of rates of consumption, surveys have consistently found higher percentage of uses in other states. In any
he said it's no surprise that california also has the highest rate of welfare recipients which is also not true on a per capita basis that title belongs to new mexico followed by louisiana west virginia oklahoma and oregon if assessed based on federal snap benefits so not only is he lying he's trying to create the idea that people who smoke marijuana wind up on welfare and he says the government should disincentivize use of this harmful drug and not allow brinks banks to prop up this immoral industry
federal government should have no role in encouraging citizens to break federal laws by incentivizing the banks to go ahead and do it. So he's saying, nope, we should still keep the banks in the dark. We should still make this difficult for everyone. He says that they all become addicts. They rely on state welfare, disability payments for unemployment. Their medical problems will increase and drain our already strained health care system, which taxpayers, you know, are not going to front the bill for that. Boy, what a wonderful statement to unpack. There are no addicts. They don't rely on state welfare.
disability payments for unemployment we does not happen in marijuana medical problems we've already read studies that show that in states with legalized marijuana communities with legalized marijuana that the overall cost of health care goes down down not up this guy's talking out of his ass he's saying things he doesn't know what he means he's just anti marijuana and he's getting up there and he's sounding his best he can like reefer madness without coming quite out and saying it
Larry (01:15:16.002)
but anybody who talks about this being an immoral industry anybody who talks about all the drug addicts and the drain is going to create our society hasn't really been paying attention the last fifty years hasn't really been paid attention to what's going on in this country because again study after study shows that marijuana does not make people lesson less motivated it doesn't stop them from going out and getting jobs on this show on this podcast we have gone through so many different studies that outline all of this
that we know, our listeners know, that when you hear somebody like this, the bullshit meter can't hit maximum fast enough. It just can't because the question is, why do you do this, Mr. Republican Congress people or Ms. Republican Congress people? You know that people in your state love to smoke marijuana. For God sakes, in California, it's the backbone of that state in so many regards. It's not being run really well right now, but that's because you got these politicians who are playing all sorts of stupid games with it.
but you can't be from california and honestly say with a straight face that it's immoral that it causes all of this unemployment and all of these strains on society it's just not true and you'll note that when the people make these statements they never cite any studies anywhere they just say it as as a patronizing condescending government person who's sure
that they know better than everybody else and again even though the majority of the people in our state like marijuana i'm here to tell you that it's a moral and it causes bad things for people and we shouldn't have it legalized fuck you i'm sorry that's all we can say about that is fuck you we can't spend any more time on it because these people just are fucked but if we move on we see the ncaa has voted remove marijuana from banned substances list for college athletes we've talked about this story before
and it's a great story to talk about because in the context of all of this is going on we have the ncaa which is usually pretty strict about these kind of things and they have come out and they said that it does not provide a competitive advantage the the council's focus on policy centered on student athlete health and well -being rather than punishment for cannabis use this is refreshing to hear from the ncaa which is a pretty draconian organization in and of itself when it comes to their rules and and what they do
Larry (01:17:30.016)
and so even though we talked about this particular story before it's worth talking about right now because it's such a alternate view it's such a more realistic view than what we're seeing from our own government and you know we have the n c a a like we say who's very strict about things and even they've gotten on board with this and that's just wonderful wonderful wonderful to see and something that everybody should know about it here's another one
for Mr. LaMalfa and his motley crew of folks who want to sit there and tell us why marijuana is no good. A new study suggests that access to medical marijuana may increase the amount of parenting that people engage in by improving patients' health. Medical marijuana legalization reduces inactive time and increases sleep consistent with medical marijuana's health benefits. The report published this month in the Journal of Applied Economics says, our results suggest that medical marijuana can have significant positive impact
on the development of children via increased parenting time, the study concludes, especially to those under the age of six, a period characterized by high long -run returns to parental investment. The big caveat in the findings research notice is that the benefits apply only if the parents do not misuse cannabis, noting bigger increases in parenting time for those less likely to abuse marijuana. Marijuana can produce health benefits
for those suffering from chronic pain sleep disorder depression and PTSD allowing parents to better interact with their children the report says so the report was co -authored by Cynthia Bancic of the st. laris university economics department and Yoon Young Kim of the school of digital humanities and computational social sciences at South Korea's advanced Institute of Science and Technology both authors also represent the Institute of Labor Economics in Bonn Germany and the global labor organization
in essence germany we show the legalization medical marijuana increases parenting time with children they read they wrote the increases are significant active child care activities require less parents of the effort less effort of the parents such as playing with the child and on passive child care in which parents watch over children while engaging at some other engaging in some other activity looking at the heterogeneous effects of the the effects are greater for those who are more likely to benefit from medical use of marijuana
Larry (01:19:43.854)
and for subsamples with larger baseline parenting time, such parents who have children younger than six. The treatment effectively corresponds to 8 % to 12 % of the gap in parental time on child care between parents with some college education and less college education. and the story goes on and again, these people are not talking out of their ass. These people have actually conducted studies. They're providing scientific
study results you the mouth of the one extreme to the heavens all he wants about how bad this is but he's just talking out of his ass he doesn't address these studies he doesn't say why these studies are wrong he doesn't say what study after study after study that we see points out the helpful benefits of it for veterans for people with disabilities for people who are opioids and don't want to be on opioids you know for people who were on any kind of
medication out there were marijuana has shown to have a positive impact and we can we just go through all of them again and again and again with the all point out more than anything else is the positive benefits and here just like is an example and without even having to go through all the particular detail details we have just a whole line of stories we talk about positive impact on children
lesser -known marijuana components can be promising anti -cancer agents so i say study on multiple my little friends more americans smoke marijuana everyday than drink alcohol on a daily basis a new poll shows marrow of the california state fair will allow marijuana sales and on state consumption for the first time righteous over and over and over we're seeing positive stories that come out of marijuana
think about it there's lesser -known marijuana components can be promising anti -cancer agents Mr. LaMalfa, is this a problem? All of you people out there telling us that it's dangerous, it's harmful, that it's immoral all you have to do is turn on your computer all you have to do is google marijuana and the stories are here. Now you can choose not to believe any of them but if you really don't want to believe them you have to go out and you have to sponsor studies of your own and then those studies of your own that you're going to sponsor then if you want you can come back
Larry (01:22:06.99)
assuming the results are going to bear out what you're trying to say to us, but knowing that the results aren't going to bear out what you're trying to say to us, I think that you have to be a little more realistic and you have to be honest with the people who you represent and you have to be honest with the American public as a whole. And until you're willing to do that, you need to just shut up on this because you're just wasting everybody's time. And so look at the positive stories folks out there, keep a positive attitude about this. Don't be bummed out by these people on the right who are the moral police.
and think that they're going to come in and tell us how we should live our lives just because they keep their neck ties a little too tight because they keep their asses a little too pinched because they're just not ready to relax and enjoy life and have fun and nothing's more important to them than making sure that everybody else doesn't do the things that they say we shouldn't be doing and it's a shame and we're going to reach a point very soon I think where these folks won't even have a chance anymore because so many people will be smoking marijuana it will be so prevalent it will be in so many
available states and more and more and more of the studies are going to come out and it's going to be a benefit for society and hopefully a few years from now people will be looking back on these folks and laughing the way we look back on the
crazy folks right of the thirties and forties and reefer madness era and all of that because it's just you know human mentality that sometimes can't let go and the only good thing to how to let go of human mentality is to get high but if you won't get high in the first place you're gonna catch twenty two folks living your catch twenty two when comes to marijuana just please shut the fuck up about it nobody wants to hear from you anymore but we do want to hear more from the Grateful Dead and we are going back to thirty years ago today Buckeye Lake Ohio
Now we go deep into the second set and Jerry pops out and plays this tune, which we call a new tune, but certainly wasn't a new tune by this
Larry (01:25:38.766)
Standing on the moon a beautiful Garcia Hunter tune from the built -to -last album that came out in 1989 You know Jerry's voice is a little bit tired here, but it's you strong and he's Around the edges. He's he's he's It's it's it's it's lacking a little bit. I just love the determination which with which he plays that song It's really really beautiful tune too bad. It came so late in the day, but
that late they played 76 times the first on February 5th 1989 in Henry J Kaiser in Oakland and the last time was on June 30th 95 at Three Rivers Stadium in Pittsburgh Pennsylvania great tune download the show listen to the whole thing we're getting to the end I gotta get ready because I'm getting picked up to head back up to Alpine Valley soon and there's a lot going up there that I gotta get ready for a couple little things here at the end of today's show
have some shout outs we have some birthdays coming up in the next few days and I want to make sure that I get to and give proper credit on July 30th busy day for me my lovely niece Samantha is having a birthday and my good buddy Mikey took me to my first Dead Show great guy love having him around and always it's his birthday and he and his partner Lynn
are up in the great north woods of Alaska, not Alaska, Canada this weekend. Lynn's daughter was getting married, and Mazel Tov to them. I've seen some pictures. It's just beautiful up there, and very, very exciting for them and the new couple. So yeah, and then of course on August 1, who could forget? It's Jerry's birthday, so we don't have a show on August 1 this year.
but we will be talking about that next week as we will be dab smack in the middle of the days between of course which is everything about jerry and all good for that so so we get those birthday shout outs out there and you know we'll have more talk about next week i'll have the sunday night fish show from alpine the two fish shows from saint louis and although i will not have been at the three fish shows from deer creek those will have been played as well so
Larry (01:28:00.558)
we can check the notes and see what went on down there. And just checking with our buddy Joel from Ripple Tax in Chicago. Joel's the man for tax, but he's also the man for great live music. And he's doing the whole damn tour. And I'm so jealous of him that I can't believe it. But good for him, good for everybody. And it's really great. We're going out today with Quinn the Eskimo, the mighty Quinn. It's a folk song written and first recorded by Bob Dylan in 1967 during the basement tape sessions.
song's first release was in January 1968 as Mighty Quinn in a version by the British band Manfred Mann, which became a great success. It was recorded by a number of other performers, often under the title The Mighty Quinn. song is, the subject of the song is the arrival of Quinn and Eskimo, who prefers a more relaxed lifestyle, jumping cues and making haste to St. Mike up a meat, refuses hard work, just tell me where to put them and I'll tell you who to call, but brings joy to the people.
Dylan is widely believed to have derived the title character from actor Anthony Quinn's role as an Eskimo in the 1960 movie The Savage Innocents. Dylan has also been quoted as saying that the song was nothing more than a simple nursery rhyme. A 2004 Chicago Tribune article said the song was named after Gordon Quinn, co -founder of Cart McKean Films, who had given Dylan and Howard all uncredited assistance on Eat the Document. Dylan's first recorded the song in 1967, as we said, during the Basements tapes.
but didn't release it for another three more years until after manfred man single i had been released off many of us know the song first by way of manfred man like blinded for the light but of course it's a dylan tune at its heart not blinded by the light that's a a springsteen tune and but but when the eskimo was almost always plays an encore fish plays it is an encore it's just kind of a funky tune the dead played at fifty nine times
They first planted on December 30th, 1985 at Oklahoma Alameda County Coliseum. They played it for the last time on July 2nd, 1995 at Deer Creek. So as I leave you today, we're gonna leave you with from 30 years ago today, Quinn the Eskimo by the Grateful Dead. Have a great week everyone. Stay safe, enjoy your cannabis responsibly. Thanks for listening.