"JRad's Resonance: Reflecting on a Night of Jam Band Marvel" Larry Mishkin, touches upon key events like the 1969 Fillmore West concert, which previewed the infamous Altamont Speedway event by the Rolling Stones. The Altamont concert, marred by violence and tragedy, involving the Hells Angels acting as security, remains a pivotal moment in music history. .Produced by PodConx
"JRad's Resonance: Reflecting on a Night of Jam Band Marvel"
Larry Mishkin, touches upon key events like the 1969 Fillmore West concert, which previewed the infamous Altamont Speedway event by the Rolling Stones. The Altamont concert, marred by violence and tragedy, involving the Hells Angels acting as security, remains a pivotal moment in music history.
He also discussed current music events, including Phish's upcoming show at the Spere in Las Vegas Sphere, highlighting the band's incredible light shows. He contrasted the Rolling Stones' high-priced tickets for their concerts with Joe Russo's Almost Dead's more reasonable pricing and exceptional Grateful Dead covers.
He recounted attending a recent Joe Russo's Almost Dead concert in Chicago, emphasizing their outstanding performance, including an unexpected cover of Bob Dylan's "Tell Me Mama." The concert featured iconic Grateful Dead tracks, such as "Fire on the Mountain" and "Good Lovin'," offering a nostalgic and impressive experience..
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Grateful Dead
December 4, 1969
Fillmore West, S.F.
https://archive.org/details/gd69-12-04.sbd.wizard.23975.sbeok.shnf
Intro: Introduction and Altamont announcement
Track #1
Start – finish
Show No. 1 Black Peter
Track #3
1:15 – 2:45
Show No. 2 Dark Star
Track #9
13:39 – 15:15
Show No. 3 High Times
Track #10
1:18 – 2:36
Show No. 4 Good Morning Little School Girl
Track # 12
2:20 – 3:51
Outro: Uncle John’s Band
Track#17
Start – 2:12
Larry (00:01.802)
Yes, sir.
Larry (00:30.254)
Hello everyone, welcome to another episode of the Deadhead Cannabis Show. I'm Larry Mishkin, coming to you live from lovely Chicago, Illinois on a rather nasty day here, but that's all good because there's lots of wonderful things going on here in Chicago and around the world. We just finished a two-night run of JRAT at the Riviera Theater, which we'll be talking about in a little while. The Michigan Wolverines are the number one ranked football team in college football in America, which is a glorious day. And we've got another great...
show to share with you today. It's going to be the Grateful Dead from the Fillmore West on December 4th, 1969. And let's run the intros if you were sitting right there in the auditorium.
Larry (02:57.602)
So 54 years ago today, the Fillmore West out in California, and what the hell are they talking about? Just shut up and let the dead come out and play music. This, we're doing that, you've all heard about it, Sam Cutler talking about it. Well, what they're talking about is the famous or more properly infamous concert that was held at the Altamont Raceway in Tracy, California two days later on December 6, 1969. This was literally an invite to the deadheads
to come out to Tracy to go to the Altamont Speedway for this big concert that all started when the Rolling Stones decided they wanted to have a Woodstock West. And there's a great movie about this, the Grateful Dead did a documentary, Gimme Shelter, that goes through all of this. And Marvin Belli was involved, the famous attorney, all sorts of people. And they got the dead on board for it as well. And...
on December 6th, about 300,000 people descended on this raceway. And there's a book out on it actually, which I have and I've read. And it's a, it's a great book because when it talks about is, was a great idea in theory. And there were some definite logistics that they managed to pull off, but they were trying to build a stage that they were still building as everybody walked into the, into the raceway. And the crowds started showing up that by the next day, there were huge lines of traffic and they didn't have time to build.
particularly large stage. So the stage itself was really only raised up about two feet off the ground. It was kind of at the bottom of a big bowl of hill of grass where everybody could sit and watch. So the thinking was we don't have time to build a big stage. We don't need to because everybody can see us. And it was a disaster because of course the people right up front could literally just like step up onto the stage if they want. The concert is famous because the Stones hired
Hells Angels to be the bodyguards and in the course of the evening one gentleman was unfortunately killed by the Hells Angels in a dust-up right in front of the stage actually, right in front of Mick who was kind of watching the whole thing. And in the documentary they show him later back in the film room watching the film and you know greatly stressed by the fact that this was going on and that the Hells Angels were doing this and at that point there was no stopping them. They weren't going to listen to the Rolling Stones tell them to stop. They're kind of a free-thinking group of guys.
Larry (05:21.65)
It was very, very unfortunate and unfortunate that that's what this is remembered for. The Rolling Stones set was okay. The Dead I Don't Think Ever took the stage because it was so violent. The story is that when Jefferson Airplane was playing, I believe it was Paul Cantner who got hit in the head by a bottle thrown from the crowd and things just kind of went downhill after that. So Ultimat is remembered warmly or not depending on what side of the fence you're sitting on, but either way it's clearly a...
a milestone in rock and roll history and an early example of people trying to capitalize in on the festival type of atmosphere. You know, while it was a success at Woodstock, although that's even under debate given all the stories of the large numbers of people who showed up and the lack of adequate facilities which they were finally still trying to get in place and traffic jams and all sorts of things. You could argue that, you know, these really weren't very well run festivals.
But I think the bigger idea is that they were festivals. And they kind of launched the way for the rock and roll world that we have today and all of the festivals that pop up everywhere now. And of course, these days, festivals are much better planned and run much better. Although, any time you're going to get a large group of people who are all probably doing hallucinogenics gathered in one space, you're likely to run into some problems. But nevertheless,
Uh, this is historic because, uh, two days before Altamont, uh, at the Grateful Dead show at the Fillmore West, um, the boys are pushing the Altamont concert hard and I think for many of them, it was kind of a, you know, counterculture move and stick it to the man and, uh, all of that kind of stuff. But it is a famous day in rock history. I would recommend the book very highly. I would recommend the Gimme Shelter documentary. Um, and you can find the music and listen to it as well. And some of it is actually, you know, really, really good.
And it's quite a gathering of musicians. The Rolling Stones were not at Woodstock. They were clearly a huge band at the time. So their addition to Altamont was huge. And of course this year, the Rolling Stones will be playing down at Jazz Fest. And we'll get to that a little bit more in a minute. But that's how this concert launched 50 years ago today at the Fillmore West with the announcement to everyone to please come to Woodstock. After that, the dead got down to business, played some great music.
Larry (07:45.754)
And we're going to play another clip right for you here because this was a monumental performance on that night.
Larry (08:08.682)
Yes, that is Black Peter. Jerry's voice is amazing, relatively speaking, to what we later heard of him. Fresh, energetic, although the music moves kind of slowly, it's a wonderful piece of music. And the significance of this performance of Black Peter on December 4, 1969 is that it was the first one ever. This is the dead, breaking out Black Peter.
And what we're going to find as we go through the rest of this show, this is 1969 December, Working Man's Dead was still not coming out for another couple of months, but this is the first of a handful of Working Man Dead's tunes that were played at this show, and a few of them were previewed at this show. And certainly Black Peter is one of them. It's a song we've talked about before, Hunter and Garcia kind of telling us the story of a guy who's dying and all the things that he's going through.
It can be kind of dark, but if you really listen to the lyrics, it can be kind of uplifting too. And there's some really nice thoughts hidden within the song. It's, you know, Rob and I in the past would always joke about Black Peter being, you know, if you will, sorry, the pun, the black sheep of the Jerry ballads, because when we're all sitting there waiting for that hot morning dew, and you get Black Peter, your initial reaction is, oh, it's not morning dew. And then they get into the middle of the Black Peter, and you realize what a great tune it really is.
how tight the lyrics are, how beautiful the melody is that Jerry puts on top of it. Because again, it kind of gives you that feeling of you're mourning a person who's, you know, dead or dying. But at the same time, it's just such beautiful music and such a lovely story that it's certainly one of my Jerry tunes that I'm very high on. And unfortunately, Jerry is not still around, but were he playing any day that they played Black Peter?
would certainly be okay with me and there's no question that the boys loved it because after this initial performance of the song on 12469 they went on to perform it another 350 times over the years putting it very high on the list of most frequently played Grateful Dead shows. The song was last played on June 22nd 1995 at the Knickerbocker auditorium in Albany, New York.
Larry (10:32.162)
So it didn't quite make it to the last round of Dead shows. And who knows why, I can't tell you. But Jerry loved this tune, and it certainly was in the repertoire for 25 of the 30 years that the Grateful Dead were performing live. It's a beautiful song. We really love it. And well, today's its birthday, so happy birthday to Black Peter. OK, before we dive back into the Dead,
Let's talk some other music here for a second, because there's really a lot going on in the musical world. As probably just about anybody knows right now, whether you are a jam band fan or not, Phish is going to be playing at the Las Vegas Sphere, which we just talked about with Alex Wellens last week, this brand new multifunctional facility venue that they've built out in Las Vegas.
looks like a big round sphere from the outside. And Alex gave us a little bit of a description and an explanation of what it looks like on the inside. But the video capabilities are amazing. The light shows that they're gonna be able to put on is amazing. And while all bands out there these days have made their light show and their sound show and all of that key priorities, there are a few bands that really take it to the level of fish and they're absolutely excellent crew.
that does their lighting and their sound and everything like that. And it really promises to be a string of shows that true fish heads will not want to miss. The problems of course are going to be limited number of tickets and the pricing of those tickets which is I believe expected to go past $200 for a ticket which while probably very normal for Las Vegas and certainly for the sphere is maybe a little bit more than fish heads are used to paying.
We'll see how that plays out, but whether the younger fish heads go or not, the older jam band crowd is very excited. And this is what I mean. I'm getting texts from people who have never seen fish or maybe seen fish once, or typically don't want to spend a lot of time talking about fish or aren't really interested in fish, but fish is genius as are the owners of the sphere because they're turning this into an event, not just about fish, but about.
Larry (12:53.738)
performances at the sphere and there's headlines like iconic jam band to come play at the sphere. And you're wondering if the guy who wrote the headline even knows who fish is or whether somebody just told them to say it that way. But all of a sudden fish is getting a lot of publicity. That's that's mainstream and very, very positive. And not that they've gotten negative publicity in the past, but you know, I, I think that, you know, the dad eventually became a, a mainstream news curiosity because of how long they had been around because of
all the things they stood for in terms of cultural revolution and, you know, being the first real jam band with that kind of following and crowd, uh, made it, made it very unique. By the time FISH comes around, uh, it's not that it's old news, but there's plenty of bands out there doing it now. And you just don't get as many articles, uh, from the mainstream media who are, oh, well, let's go check out FISH and see what they are. And you know, like when Harry Reisner did his report on the Grateful Dead and...
on the news one night and basically sat there and talked about the Grateful Dead as a group out there and we're going to turn this into an evening news story. But all of a sudden, you would say this is just another fish show, but hook it up with the sphere and all of a sudden this is becoming huge news. And I guess for fish heads it's a little bit of an unfortunate thing because as it drives interest and curiosity to the tickets, the other thing that it does is send a strong message to scalpers that there will be a huge black market for these tickets.
Dan Humiston (14:11.136)
Thank you.
Larry (14:19.026)
And so scalpers who do go in and try and get fish tickets, but maybe not as much as they try to scalp stones or U2 or other big names like that are now in the know as to what value these tickets might have. And on the one hand, that's great, right? Fish is out there, they're big, they're here, they're everywhere, and people are all totally fascinated about it. But much like with the Grateful Dead, when they reach that point, I can't even call myself.
you know, one of these, you know, hardcore dedicated fish heads, cause I haven't been to nearly enough shows, but those folks who know what they are, my son, Matthew, his crew, uh, it makes it tough for them because now there's a lot of people trying to get tickets who might in the past, they said, ah, whatever, it's just fish at the sphere. We'll see somebody else at the sphere. But the way this is being written up and talked about, uh, it's become a do not miss issue, uh, do not miss event. And, uh, we're all hoping that this will not negatively impact.
the ability of the really true diehard, hardcore fish fans who have seen them everywhere all the time to be able to get tickets. On that note, I will say that I too, I'm sending in my name to the email system that they use. We think Grateful Dead mail order, only this time you don't have to have all the stupid postage and certified mailers and all of that. But you do have to give them a credit card number so that if they pick your name out of the hat and sign you with seats, you get charged right away.
Dan Humiston (15:36.512)
Thank you.
Larry (15:44.574)
Um, you know, that can be a little bit risky, I suppose sometimes, but here, I don't think it's going to be quite so much because I think that the secondary market is going to be strong enough that if you do the, um, fish electronic signup and they wind up giving you seats that you don't like or, uh, otherwise don't work for you, it seems as though there will be a very, very strong secondary market for you to unload those tickets. Uh, so my advice is if you have any interest at all in seeing fish in the sphere, you ought to be signing up. And I think we have until December 11th.
So a few more days, just about another week or so here, to get your name listed on the FISH electronic sign up. Just be aware that when you do it, you have to give them a credit card number, and you will be charged for those tickets when you get them. So in other words, you can't sit around, wait to get them, and then call back up and say, you know what? I don't like these seats. Don't charge my credit card. By the time you're told you've gotten the tickets, your credit card has been charged.
So, you know, like I said, it's no difference in the mail order. We'd send in certified checks. They'd cash them and send us back tickets. And if we didn't like the tickets, and sometimes you didn't, sometimes you didn't, you know, you couldn't call them back up and demand refunds or anything like that. So, you know, you have to be a true fan or you have to be a true business man who's really in this thinking, you know, I'm going to get the tickets and I don't really care where they are because I'm going to try and flip them. Although, you know, here's me hoping that most of the people who sign up and get tickets are the true fish fans.
because they're the ones who are going to really want them and nobody should have to pay outrageously, ridiculously high secondary market prices to see a band like Fisht that has made its whole career out of playing to the crowds and making themselves accessible and available and affordable. And much like the Grateful Dead, performing musical concerts that certainly in my opinion and many others are hundreds of times better and more enjoyable and more meaningful.
that a lot of the concerts that the big rock stars put on these days, but the big rock stars are the ones who charge outrageous amounts. And speaking of rock stars who charge outrageous amounts, let's talk for a minute about the Rolling Stones, the greatest rock and roll band in the world. And I do believe that. We've talked about this. I don't view the Grateful Dead or Fish or a lot of these jam bands as quote unquote, traditional rock and roll bands. They've, they've kind of, they are in the rock and roll overarching category. Um, but rock and roll is rock and roll.
Dan Humiston (17:53.936)
Thank you.
Larry (18:06.77)
You know, you get your four to five or six minute songs that just get cranked out typically at high volume, you know, with a lot of tempo to them and all sorts of stuff like that. And, you know, that's certainly the Rolling Stones. And the Rolling Stones have been around forever now. They put on amazing concerts. I know I've told the story a dozen times. When I saw them in 81 in Philly, we thought they were so old and couldn't believe how old they looked and how old they sounded. That was only 40 years ago. So, you know, they fooled everybody.
Keith Richards once again wins the award for human being least likely to be alive at his age. But he made it and God bless him and maybe someday he'll teach all of us his secrets so that we can continue to go out and party up and know that we still got plenty of time left on the other end. He's quite a remarkable guy. Ronnie Wood, of course, Charlie Watts, the drummer, recently passed, maybe not even so recently anymore.
Dan Humiston (18:39.88)
least likely to be alive.
Larry (19:05.27)
Bill Lyman, the bass player, the original bass player, has gone. So you basically have a core three that has been filled in now with a number of other wonderful musicians who kind of fill it out. And that's a great thing. And these Stones tickets are all going to sell out. Everywhere they go, they're coming to Soldier Field. They just added a second night. And ticket prices are ridiculous, too. $300, $400, $500, depending on where you sit. Some of them are going for almost under $1,000. And these are.
tickets being sold by the Rolling Stones. We're not talking secondary markup yet. By the time you get the secondary markup, ticket prices are escalating well beyond a thousand dollars. And even for regular seats. Now there will be a place like Soldier Field is so large that if you're really interested in being in the building, but you don't mind sitting, you know, a hundred or five hundred yards away, whatever it is, if you're at the other end of the stadium and, you know, all the way up at the top.
You can probably get in for three, $400, maybe $500. That's still a lot of money to be sitting really, really far away. The only thing I can tell you that swings in the favor of doing it is that there's really nothing like a Rolling Stones concert. And the guitar players will be jamming away and Mick Jagger, pushing 80 years old, I assume, will be running around on the stage like he always does. And even though his voice can't hit all the notes it used to hit,
and they're moving a little bit slower, there's no doubt that it's a rock and roll spectacle. And if you've never seen the Rolling Stones and you're willing to just consider it a cultural experience that everyone should have and therefore willing to drop a few dollars for it, you can't go wrong seeing the Rolling Stones. You know, and talking to my friends, we've all seen them various number of times along the way. And there seems to be a little more reluctance.
to laying out that kind of money to see them just because it's a lot of money. Having said that, it will be very interesting to see ultimately how many people bite the bullet and say, you know, it's the Rolling Stones. And we know that every time they come around, we're thinking, by God, look at how old they are. This has got to be their last tour. Well, they just came out with a new album this year. So you know, who knows what they have in mind. And look.
Larry (21:21.526)
Rolling Stones are fun. Soldier Field, if it's a nice weather day, could be a beautiful place to see a concert. And everybody else has to make their own decisions. But I'd like to think about the Rolling Stones. Look, it's one thing if you're a band in your prime and you're early to mid years and you're out there and you've really hit it big, and you know that if I sell a ticket for $100, it's gonna get resold for $1,000, I want part of that. Okay, that's business. That's the way the business world works. And certainly in that regard, the Rolling Stones are completely justified.
selling their tickets for whatever the market will bear. However, let's not lose sight of the fact that the Rolling Stones have been playing now for close to 50 years. And they're way, way past the point where their financial concerns are legitimate, where they're still doing this quote unquote for a living. These guys could have retired years ago to very comfortable lifestyles. And I love the fact that they're still out there performing, but maybe guys, you just say, look, we're gonna give the...
50,000 per venue, people who are lucky enough to get our tickets at a reasonable price and give everybody a chance to get out here. We can't control the secondary market, but don't worry about the secondary market. Even if you sell out all of your shows at $100 or $200, there's millions and millions and millions of dollars to be made here. So there's a little bit more capitalism creeping in that certainly fans would like to see a little bit less of. But who am I to say? I'm not Mick Jagger.
And nobody's asking, nobody's being charged $1,000 to see me and doing it. So you can't compete with that, but it will be pricey to get your tickets to see the Rolling Stone. So it's a great event. You just have to decide if you're willing to bite that bullet and go for it. So let's shift our focus to a band that is out there right now blowing people out of the water and being very, very reasonable.
Dan Humiston (22:55.045)
Thank you.
Larry (23:19.646)
in the prices that they charge. And that would be Joe Russo's almost dead, Jay Rad who is touring again and everywhere they go, people just love them. It's a combination of Grateful Dead covers, but I think that they cover Grateful Dead songs as well as anybody out there, including Dead and Co, including Bobby, including Phil. They're obviously not Bobby and Phil, so it doesn't replace seeing Bob Weir and or Phil Lesh or some of the other guys up there playing with them.
But if you're just, you know, closing your eyes and tuning in your ears, uh, Jay Rad is really, really hard to beat with such a talented lineup of artists, uh, that have been playing with them for so long now that, uh, you know, it's just hard to imagine other people, right? We've got obviously Joe Russo, uh, leading the way on drums, Tom Hamilton on guitar. He also plays with Billy and the kids and he's just exceptional. Uh, David Drywood's on the bass.
Scott Metzger plays the other guitar, and Marco Benvenetto, hard last name to always say, is on the keyboards. Of course, he and Russo were playing as the duo for a number of years. But with the addition of Metzger and Dreowitz and Hamilton, they've just become an unstoppable force out there. And they played at the Riviera Night Club in Chicago this past weekend, Saturday night and Sunday night. Excuse me, Friday night and Saturday night.
Dan Humiston (24:42.336)
Thanks for watching!
Larry (24:47.61)
I was lucky enough to get to the Friday night show. I could not, I could have gone Saturday night. I had tickets, but in the world of priorities, Saturday night, I prioritized watching Michigan play in the big 10 championship game against Iowa over Jay Rad only because I had just seen Jay Rad the night before. And after all of the lean years that Michigan football went through in the 15 or so years leading up to the last couple getting beaten like a drum by Ohio state every year, either not making a bowl game or making one and getting their butts kicked.
Dan Humiston (25:05.718)
Thank you.
Larry (25:17.518)
I'm of the mind that you got to enjoy the winning while you have it. And so, missed last night's show, excuse me, Saturday night's show, and look, Michigan won and they won big and they're going to the college football playoffs, they're the number one ranked team in the country right now. So for me, it was a good trade off and I was very happy about that. Last night's show was very, very solid, great, grateful dead covers. The one thing I did miss in all of this and...
Dan Humiston (25:30.161)
Thank you.
Larry (25:42.75)
and get it hard to time up with JRad these days, is last night, excuse me, Saturday night, they covered The 11. And that's the song that originally really locked me in on JRad, because I truly believe that there is no band out there since The Grateful Dead back in the day that plays The 11 as true to form, and as well as JRad with the exchanging vocals and the weird time signatures, and they just kill it. When you see Dead and Company and they play it,
excuse me, I don't think that it comes off quite as well as when other people play it. And JRad certainly just kills it, as they do with everything. And it's a wonderful thing to see. And it's really a lot of fun. So just to really quickly, first set of A Foolish Heart, into, and this is why JRad is great, into Tell Me Mama, a Bob Dylan. We may put this show on.
We may put this JRad show on our show in one of the weeks to come because, uh, it's just exceptional. Open with a Foolish Heart, which, you know, a lot of deadheads say was one of their more favorite late Jerry tunes. And these guys cover it well, but then they go into Tell Me Mama and Tell Me Mama is a Bob Dylan tune. So we say, okay, look, no big deal. Lots of people cover Dylan. We know the dead cover Dylan quite a bit. And, uh, deadheads and the type of folks that go to see JRad probably love Dylan.
But Tell Me Mama is a very unique Dylan tune. It's never been put out on an album. It was never released on a studio album by Bob Dylan. Furthermore, it was only played in concert by Bob Dylan on one tour, his world tour in 1966. And basically since that time, Dylan has never played it again. It was never released on an album. And this is the tune these guys are playing. It's like, wait a second. How do you even know the tune exists unless you're so much of a
Dylan had that you're going back and finding old bootlegs from him from way, way back in the day. It's not like there's an album and you can say, wow, this is a strange song. I love this one. How come Dylan never played it live? You really have to dig deep. And they did and they played it and they killed it. It's just such a great song. And God love J-Rad for being creative and having the musical chops and the musical knowledge and history to go back and find music like this.
Larry (28:05.67)
and just blew everybody away with it. You know, a lot of people knew it was a Dylan tune, but without the wonderful aid of the internet, finding out some of that information might've been a little bit difficult. So I don't want anyone to think that I'm one of these guys who just instinctively knew. I, like everyone else, when I heard what it was, immediately looked it up to figure out, this is a Dylan song, how come I don't recognize it other than recognizing it as a Dylan tune. Into a beautiful Cassidy.
a very long first set space back into Cassidy, West LA fadeaway, always a fun tune, a fantastic fire on the mountain. And we had a very long conversation. My group of buddies and I was there with my friend John and Marnie, Rick, Joel, Stefan, whole group of guys and women, and the conversation was about fire on the mountain without the Scarlet intro, or alternatively, Scarlet without the fire on the mountain follow. And we loved both tunes a lot, but unanimously we agreed that
Dan Humiston (28:49.147)
Thank you.
Larry (29:04.446)
Fire on the Mountain is the much better standalone tune than Scarlet Begonia. Scarlet Begonia is beautiful and it's a great song. But without Fire on the Mountain on the back end, it just kind of jams a little bit and then just would drift off because you don't have that immediate transition into Fire on the Mountain. With Fire on the Mountain, it's a little bit different because if you're transitioning out of almost anything, you're going into that tune. And we're all used to Fire on the Mountain at the end of the song kind of being played in a way.
that signifies it's the end of the tune. But it was just a beautiful fire on the mountain. They played it really, really well. We're sitting here looking at the time wondering, boy, first set started at 8.30, we're starting to push 9.30, 9.45, how long are they gonna go? Came out after that with a black throated wind, and then just for the hell of it, just because they threw in a berth at the end of the first set. They clocked in at 90 minutes, tremendous berth, always fun. It was a great way for them to end the set, and we loved it.
Dan Humiston (29:38.315)
Thank you.
Larry (30:01.514)
Very short set break, 10.30, man, they were right back out. You gotta love that. Opening with a good lovin' and who doesn't love a good lovin'? As Alex Wellens always said, play good lovin', everybody leaves with a smile on their face and it feels like a stranger and then the moment of the concert. And before I talk about that, you have to, just a little bit, I'm older, I know it, I get it, now I'm in my 60s, okay, I'm one of the old guys. And at the show, we were having a really good time and there was a guy standing right next to me.
Dan Humiston (30:16.259)
Thank you.
Dan Humiston (30:28.244)
Thanks.
Larry (30:28.59)
from one of the Western suburbs who was there with his wife. She clearly was only there because he wanted to be there. I quickly established that he's too young to have seen Jerry, but so what? He knew all the songs. He was singing along with all of them. He could call them on the intros. Um, and he, and I were having a good time because, you know, he would say to me, Oh, you saw Jerry. Sure. When was, Oh, 1982. Oh my God. I can't believe you. But you get a lot of that from the quote unquote newer kids who are now in their early forties who, you know, miss Jerry and all of that. Um,
Dan Humiston (30:56.348)
Thank you.
Larry (30:57.75)
But we were still having a great time and feel like a stranger. We were talking about it. What a great tune and all the songs that they usually play in or out of it. It's show opener, um, all of that stuff. And then they're just jamming and jamming and jamming in between tunes like they do. And we're all just kind of hanging out and drifting in and out and, you know, enjoying it. And all of a sudden you hear some notes. And this is a very common experience with the debt or with fish or with any of these guys, when they veer off their common path.
And even if you know they're a cover band, you know, and you have a pretty good idea of the tunes that they cover, you never know for sure what they're going to be playing sometimes. And I'm hearing a few notes of a song and I know this song and it was so in my mind out of place, not in a bad way, but just not expecting to hear it at a show like this, that it really took me an extra minute to know, to confirm that this is what I was hearing. And all the folks around me, not all of them, but a lot of them, including this guy.
had no clue what it was. And of course they didn't because go figure, JRad was covering Dire Straits, Romeo and Juliet. Now Romeo and Juliet by Dire Straits is maybe, certainly one of my top two or three all time favorite Dire Straits songs on their live album Alchemy. It's a double album if you don't have it. If you've never heard of Dire Straits, you're missing out on a lot. If Mark Knopfler.
Uh, had a little more weight and a lot of facial hair and lived in San Francisco. He could have been Jerry Garcia. I mean, he's that talented, this guy. He's just an amazing, amazing guitarist. He's got a great voice and dire Straits was just, and I don't want to say was like they're all dead or anything, but at that time in the eighties and into the early nineties, um, just amazing what they did and they had a little bit of, um, uh, you know, more, uh, pop tunes at the time. Uh,
MTV money for nothing, get your chicks for free and blah, blah. It's all fun, but they're really, you know, they're good songs like, uh, Skate away and Romeo and Juliet and once upon a time in the West and, um, of course, Sultan's of swing, which was their really big song that everybody knew. Uh, and, and Romeo and Juliet is such a beautiful tune. And I just couldn't believe it. I was just blown away.
Larry (33:16.494)
It was marvelous that Tom Hamilton played it as well as anybody other than Mark Knopfler could have played it. He sang it a lot of the same way that Mark would have Mark always sang it. And for me, that was such a highlight above and beyond everything else that there's, there's room for other, you know, minor highlights underneath it. But, uh, you know, I, I like to send songs out to people who aren't at the show just to kind of keep up to date, sent it to my wife, uh, who was very disappointed that she didn't make the show because.
Dan Humiston (33:23.458)
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Larry (33:43.862)
She loves Dire Straits and Romeo and Juliet is her favorite tune. Um, so it was just beautiful. It was a great thing to hear. And that's why you go to these shows because you just don't know what you're going to get out of it. And the whole second set, by the way, was just one long run of music. Everything went into everything else. There were no stops, no breaks. Romeo and Juliet into a beautiful here comes sunshine into Casey Jones. Then a second set space that kind of just dragged on for awhile. I don't mean drag in a bad way, but really lasted for awhile.
Dan Humiston (33:51.743)
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Larry (34:13.698)
Then they slipped into playing in the band and in the middle of playing in the band, they did a thing on drums. It was just Joe doing his, uh, you know, solo drum solo up there, but all the other guys were on stage. And so I'm calling it drums with everyone because they were all dropping in. Now they weren't really playing as much as they were dropping in little chords and little notes here and there to compliment the drumming. It was high energy. It was great. Back into playing in the band and all of a sudden they're done and you look up and in the blink of an eye, it's already 11 45.
uh... they didn't play a lot of songs like seven songs each set these guys just jam and jam and jam which is the way the dead used to do it way back in the day and we're still kind of doing it up until the end is the way fish does it and these guys show that they you know they're good man they can hold a candle to anyone and uh... and get out there give you your money's worth the beauty of the friday night show at the riv was uh... it just wasn't that crowded there was no line to get in uh...
the floor had room, we had seats upstairs in the balcony because we're old folks now, we like to be able to sit. And there was plenty of room around us the whole time. And it was just a wonderful night for rock and roll and to see J-Red. I did not make it to the show last night, Saturday night, a little more crowded. And like I said, they pretty much stuck to the script of being an all grateful dead band, which is wonderful. And they did play the 11, which I was sorry to miss. But nevertheless.
Dan Humiston (35:17.39)
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Larry (35:38.214)
You go to see JRad because they're just that good and you just don't know. But without the Grateful Dead, we wouldn't have JRad. So let's go back to December 4th, 1969 and we'll play the next clip that we have.
Larry (37:30.754)
So that's Dark Star, we all know Dark Star. It's such a wonderful song. And what I love about the Dark Star here, because we still refer to 1969 as being Primal Dead. And we've recently featured some shows from 1970 and even 71 where by that point, the transition is almost complete. And while they're still reaching back out for the Dark Star and maybe that's it for the other one, by that point in time, the boys are pretty much shifted.
into the Americana stream and pulling more and more away from Primal Dead. But this is 1969. This is still Primal Dead and yet, you know, the boys are really giving the fans that night a double dose. People are getting, we're getting a lot of songs from Working Man's Dead, which is clearly the launching pad for the Americana Dead era and moving out of Primal Dead. But
you know, given that it's 69, they're not ready to give up on some of these songs yet. So we're getting this great mix of kind of old and new. Uh, and it influences the songs. This is a, a wonderful, wonderful dark star. Um, and I have to admit the dark star is an acquired taste. And it took me a while to really begin to understand and appreciate it fully. You know, it's a song that when you're listening on a CD on a car with a lot of people and you're driving along, you kind of have a tendency.
Dan Humiston (38:27.836)
Now.
Larry (38:53.422)
to skip over Darkstar because 30 minutes in a car with people listening to all the sounds and noises and whatever music they're creating, for a lot of people it just doesn't fly. No, I can't listen to this. I need a song with words or something like that. But if you start listening to Darkstars, you very quickly pick up on why people love them so much and why they're so special. It's really kind of fun to hear the different styles of Darkstars over the years, but this is a tremendous Darkstar.
Dan Humiston (39:01.76)
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Dan Humiston (39:21.454)
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Larry (39:23.162)
It's 30 minutes long, it's got a slightly faster tempo than the Dark Stars that had been played up to that point. In the reviews of the show, people are calling it a transcendent Dark Star. It's certainly one that I would very strongly recommend you listen to. It's a great launching point for other Dark Star music and something that I would highly recommend to anybody.
uh... not this point they had been playing the song from was two years they broke it out for the first time on january seventeenth nineteen sixty eight at the carousel ballroom and uh... after a total of the will it play the total of two hundred forty one times with the final performance on march thirtieth nineteen ninety four at the army in atlanta georgia uh... interestingly you would be surprised in sixty nine sixty eight sixty nine seventy all the song got its most plays and then after that
Dan Humiston (39:58.775)
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Larry (40:10.902)
In the following years, the numbers would dwindle down to some years where there was none at all, a few years where there was only one or two. And then in the early nineties, it made a little bit of a comeback and was being played three or four times a year by the dead. Although the caveat to that is that people would consider it to be a dark star, even on those occasions when they didn't sing the verses, or maybe they just sang the first verse and not the second verse, or maybe they sang the second verse if they had done the first verse a couple of shows before, but it was very rare.
Dan Humiston (40:26.684)
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Larry (40:38.646)
uh, by the late eighties and nineties to get a full blown dark star. That's why we always talk about, uh, 10, 16 89 at Brendan burn and, um, uh, 10, 26 89, uh, down in Miami as being two tremendous examples of, of what you would call modern day dark stars. So if you're looking for something newer, I would go for those, but this is a great one and like I said, I think this is a good one to really kind of, uh, you know, learn about dark star just because.
It does move a little bit with a little more tempo and it is, um, their voices are great. It just sounds really, really good. The crowd loves it. And, uh, you know, 69 so good. We got our dark star. Everybody is happy. Now switching back over to the, uh, Americana side and working mans. Uh, here's our next tune.
Dan Humiston (41:30.407)
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Dan Humiston (41:43.284)
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Larry (41:45.506)
High Time, what a beautiful song. I love High Time off of Working Man's. And it's just a great song.
Larry (41:57.358)
It's a beautiful tune and I think that high time could have worked just as well in the Primal Dead era. The way they play it, the way they sing it, the way they bring out the music on it is just absolutely a beautiful thing and it's always been a fan favorite. For me it was tricky because even though the Grateful Dead ultimately played it 133 times
It took me a long, long time to see it. I started seeing the dead in 82. I finally caught it. 10 years later, 92 at the Sam Boyd silver shows, Sam Boyd bowl, silver, excuse me, Sam silver shows, Sam Boyd shows. Okay. Well, I'm getting it all wrong to the Sam Boyd silver bowl. Thank you. It took me a minute to get that out in lovely Las Vegas. Um, we were there for, uh,
Alex's bachelor party and the second day deep into the second set or no, deep into the first set rather. They pulled out a high times. And it was nice cause I was there with a big group of my dead head buddies. And we all knew which songs guys in the group had not heard on the minute they started playing it. Everybody came running. Hey, are you hearing it's high times? And I was, and it was beautiful. But I especially enjoyed it a few months later when I saw them at the Rosemont horizon in Chicago.
And they played it again. And now I was really ready for it and it was indoors and it was, you know, more focused and, um, a great tune. But, you know, for me, it was just one of those where it was, uh, tricky to catch up with it. Uh, but again, uh, the big hit off of, uh, working mans and ones that, uh, deadheads always loved to hear. Uh, they had first played it just a few months before on June 21st, 69th at the Fillmore East and the last performance of High Time by the Grateful Dead was March 24th.
1995 in Charlotte. So which keeps in touch with it. After that, there was still a few months left before they stopped playing, and Jerry never pulled it out again. So High Times is a great tune, a lot of fun, always a crowd pleaser. And I think with this combination of Black Peter off of Working Man's and then into Dark Star from Primal
Larry (44:18.358)
at the high times from Working Man. And we still have one more primal we'll get to in a minute as we kind of wrap up talking about this show. But I want to take advantage of this moment to switch over to the other side of our programming. And let's talk marijuana for a minute.
Dan Humiston (44:38.501)
Come on.
Dan Humiston (44:46.806)
Damn it.
Larry (44:49.998)
So, wait a second, you're saying, that's not music. What are we playing here? If you listen to the voices very carefully, you can recognize Sergeant Joe Friday from a mile away. And he and his partner are busting a guy for marijuana, a well-dressed businessman. You can go find the clip on YouTube, it's hysterical. And they're explaining to him, right, why they're busting him. And I love it, this is what, I don't know what year this was made, late 1960s at some point,
marijuana was being added to schedule one by president Nixon and you know, if you weren't a hippie, the common thought was that marijuana was a, was a, a killer and a dangerous drug. Um, and this, this perp on dragnet is trying to explain to the guys why they're wasting their time arresting him because it's just marijuana, man. It's not like it's heroin or LSD or any of those other drugs. And besides it, it's all going to be made legal anyway. And don't you want to be on the right side of history? But
Sergeant Joe Friday is a no nonsense cop as we all know. And you know, he explains to the man why, well, maybe someday, but not today. And right now it's, we say it's illegal and you're going to jail for it. And you know, way to go, way to go Sergeant Friday. And of course, Dragnet was based on various actual crime stories that Joe Friday would, the actor's name, which I'm spacing on for a minute, would go.
dig up the answers for that. And they would base these off of real stories. He had a great relationship with law enforcement. And law enforcement liked the show because it cast law enforcement in a positive light and sent a lawful message to everybody. But it's just great, right? Because we've all watched this show, or at least those of us that are old enough to have watched it. And we all kind of laughed as you get older at how square Joe Friday sounds. And here these guys have this conversation with this very ordinary business dressed guy
Uh, and he's speaking the lines that we all speak today, uh, about, uh, the positives of marijuana and why it shouldn't be illegal and why nobody should be arrested for it, but back then on drag net, you made a mistake. You're going to jail. So, uh, nice that we, uh, we're able to come up with that clip. And, uh, although Dan is normally the guy who comes up with our, uh, grateful dead inspired music clips. A shout out for this one goes to cool cousin Brent and St. Louis who founded and sent it up to me, uh, for a little humor.
Larry (47:17.79)
And so we could incorporate it into today's show. So thank you Brent for that. And hope you all liked it. You can go and find Dragnet on your local Hulu or whatever TVs they have it. And you know, I find it a lot of fun to get really high and sit down and watch Dragnet. And then they all just seem a little more silly. But let's jump into the world of marijuana news here for a minute because there is some stuff going on. MJ Biz Conference just wrapped up this past week. And I did not make it out there this year. Dan was there, but I...
did not have a chance and Rob didn't make it. But there seems to be a sense of people that they talked to at the conference that the best days are still to come for the cannabis industry. And people are pointing to the fact that the Safe Banking Act is hopefully going to get passed this year, that marijuana is being rescheduled to get rid of the 280E obligations, some other policy changes that may come along the way. And
Interestingly, they're all talking about a dynamic that I've been talking about for 10 plus years because I heard it 10 years ago at MJ Biz in Seattle. And from the very first day, this to me has always been an important part, and that is co-opetition. In other words, you're always in competition with the guys next to you, the other people in the industry, but you have to
Dan Humiston (48:21.131)
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Larry (48:45.206)
Because in order for the industries to survive, everybody has to survive. If Cresco puts everybody else out of business, it's good for Cresco, but it's not good for the rest of us. And here they're talking about shifting attitudes away from viewing fellow operators as competition and instead looking to partner with them to find various synergies. And that's one of the things actually that MJ Biz has always been about is bringing so many people in the industry together from so many different parts of it with the hope that there will be this kind of
commonality and all doing the same thing, and how can we work together? And a rising tide lifts all boats kind of moment, if you will. And the message from folks in the industry is very clear, if you don't believe in it, you shouldn't be in the industry. And I kind of disagree with that statement, because you can absolutely be in the industry, but still disagree where things are at in the industry right now. And while there certainly is.
some of this going on, this co-opetition, if you will, there's a lot of competition going on. We're seeing it in Illinois. The big question is whether or not the new license holders who are now kind of up and running a little bit are going to ever be able to compete with the Crescos and the Zen Leafs and Cura Leafs and all of the big MSOs out there. That really remains to be seen, but the sense is that those big guys are very happy having the markets to themselves.
Dan Humiston (49:50.274)
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Larry (50:11.75)
and don't really seem to be all that interested in, you know, lending out a helping hand to the newbies who could come in and really fill out the market and make it overall a stronger market and a better market, which would be good for everybody. And we don't see a lot of that right now. And the other thing, while I hate to be a negative Nelly about any of this, there's still a big question as to the current financial state of the industry these days. And most of these...
conferences over the last few years have been very, very heavy on people looking for money, looking for investors, all with great ideas, but just not with the financing to get it done. And a lot of people who are saying, you know, I'm here looking for good ideas, but I'm really not interested in investing money in anybody else at the moment. And that's kind of problematic. And, you know, we've talked about this before, and the hope is, of course, that we can get to a point and maybe with federal reforms.
Dan Humiston (51:00.453)
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Larry (51:08.222)
investors will be willing to step back in more. But it also has to start within the industry itself. And we have to have good business people who follow the rules and aren't getting themselves shut down. We have to have people who agree that co-opetition is the way to go. And so if your crest go, you're willing to help everybody and reach out so that people can come along. A new mom and pop dispensary in Chicago is not going to unseat.
Dan Humiston (51:18.941)
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Larry (51:36.878)
Cresco or any of the other big boys from their positions. And it would be good for a lot of other people and get more people interested in buying the products. And eventually that creates business for the multi-state operators as well. So the hope is that everyone would go that way. Well, you know what? We'll see what happens over time. And we'll see what happens by the MJ Biz Conference next year and where things are at. Right now I would say, in my opinion, the market is kind of status quo and where it's been for the last year, year and a half.
Um, you know, but with the hope that, uh, we will see a significant turnaround that will bring people, uh, especially investors back in and, uh, create a level of co-op petition that will really let the market grow into something, uh, you know, that we're all looking for it, uh, to be, and that would be great. Uh, in the meantime, here's why we all still love marijuana and tell this the squares to piss off another day, another report this time, uh, we find out.
that in a federally funded study, people with anxiety experience better quality sleep on days when they use marijuana compared to days when they use alcohol or nothing at all to control their anxiety. The study was published in the Journal of Drug and Alcohol Review and was conducted by researchers at the University of Colorado, Colorado State University, and the University of Haifa in Israel, where they analyzed the subjective sleep quality.
Dan Humiston (52:41.704)
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Larry (53:03.21)
of almost 400 people who reported using cannabis to treat anxiety. They wanted to understand the different ways sleep was affected by the use of marijuana, alcohol, neither or both on a given day. And they were asked, people in the study were asked to fill out a daily survey for 30 days, what substances they used, and how was their sleep experience as a result. And it was all compared, and they say compared to non-use, participants reported better sleep after cannabis use only and after co-use, but not after alcohol use only.
Well, that's not surprising. Again, last week or the week before, we talked about the study that said people who use marijuana find that they sleep better than people who use prescription or over-the-counter sleep aids. And this is just taking that to the next level. Somebody says, I'm having trouble sleeping. I don't want to use over-the-counter or pharmaceutical sleep aids. So what do I look to? Well, there's alcohol, which a lot of people drink, drink.
pass out from drinking alcohol or smoking marijuana, both ways to control anxiety and help people who have anxiety sleep better. It can't be a surprise to anyone who's been paying attention that the people who use marijuana are going to have a more relaxing and better sleep than after alcohol. Why? Because your body welcomes the marijuana. It welcomes the cannabis. We have cannabis receptors in our brains. Alcohol is putting like poison in your body.
It doesn't mean that people don't get drunk and fall asleep, but my personal experiences would be I agree with the study that I sleep much better if I've smoked marijuana than if I've had a lot to drink. When I have a lot to drink, it really kind of throws me off. I definitely do not sleep as well and I do not feel nearly as well in the morning when I wake up as opposed to having smoked the night before. This is not groundbreaking. The only thing that's groundbreaking about it is that we're seeing the recognition of
right here in a study so that it's not just conjecture, it's not just somebody's subjective opinion. We're doing more and more tests. And since we're all about these tests, there's another test that just came out. And in this one, they did a study of young adults. And again, a federally funded study suggests that marijuana legalization may be linked to a substitution effect with young adults in California significantly reducing their use of alcohol and cigarettes.
Larry (55:32.166)
after the cannabis reform was enacted. And what's more, the research appears to contradict prohibitionist arguments about the potential impact of legalization, as the data also revealed no significant increase in marijuana use among young adults who are still not of age to access retail dispensaries, though there were interesting changes in certain modes of consuming cannabis following the policy change. This is like a broken record.
Dan Humiston (55:33.887)
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Larry (55:59.522)
We were hearing this all the time, and now we're hearing it twice. Two things are being suggested here, right? First one, the one we know, which is that legalizing marijuana does not lead to an increase in marijuana use among young adults who are still under the age of being able to go into a retail dispensary to purchase their marijuana. The prohibition is to say, we don't want our kids to smoke marijuana. We don't want this law, to which we always say either A, your kids are already smoking marijuana.
Dan Humiston (56:24.71)
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Larry (56:28.414)
And B, if they're not, the studies show everywhere. You're not going to be any different here that when it is legalized, young adult use does not go up. So prohibitionists, it's time to take that argument, shove it up your ass, and move on to something else, because that one's not going to cut it for you anymore. And I do get a little worked up about these from time to time, because for God's sakes, folks, how many studies do we need?
Dan Humiston (56:30.076)
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Larry (56:57.102)
to really demonstrate to us that we know all of this, and we're all just ready to move on. And I don't have an answer for you, other than the fact that it keeps guys like me in business because it gives us something to talk about and rant about and really try to push the message. And when the federally funded studies come out, that only helps the position. It gives people say, I'm not just making this up, I'm not just making excuses for why I like to get high. Hey, guess what?
Dan Humiston (57:15.068)
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Larry (57:26.786)
There's real research out there that supports everything I'm telling you about why I like to get high, about the positive benefits that I get from it, and about the negative benefits, the negative aspects that exist in people's minds, but not in reality. So thank you for all of these studies. Sorry if you get bored hearing me talk about it. But if you're listening to my show, you're going to hear me talk about it any time they come out, because it's just one of these things where we really need to kind of slap the straights in the face a few times and say, hey, guys.
You don't have to like it. You don't have to smoke it. Leave us alone. Please just leave us alone and let us do our thing and don't be busybodies in everybody else's life. And we'll see if that happens or if it doesn't, but as long as these studies come out, we're all about it. But back to the Grateful Dead, because of course you've got the Grateful Dead, marijuana is inherently part of it anyway. And especially if you were at a Grateful Dead show 50 years ago in 1969 in San Francisco.
Dan Humiston (58:15.996)
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at the Fillmore West. And so going back to that show, I almost gave it away, back to that show for a little more dip into the primal Deadpool. Here's our next tune.
Larry (58:48.846)
Good morning, little schoolgirl. What a wonderful, wonderful song. An old time classic first recorded by John Lee Sonny Boy Williams in 1937. The composer of the song remains somewhat of a mystery, although it has been tracked back to Back Inside Blues album by Son Bonds in 1934.
Dan Humiston (58:56.038)
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Larry (59:16.598)
So my research, that was about the best that I could come up with as to who actually wrote the song. But it's a very famous, very well-known blues number that's been covered by any one of a number of people in the blues business. And out, John Lee Hooker, Muddy Waters, Junior Wells, Buddy Guy, The Yardbirds played it. And it's just one of those things where
So it just has a rich history in rock and roll. And certainly one that the stars of rock and roll, the guys who lean towards the blues side of music, always picked up on and loved to play. And so it should be no surprise to anyone that Primal Grateful Dead with Pigpen, who was nothing if not a blues aficionado, hiding as a rock and roll star. And you can hear him singing his lead on this.
That's him playing the harmonica, just an exceptional, exceptional musician and one who I really, really am sorry that I did miss more than any of the other guys in the band who didn't make it all the way through. But Big Penn was such a, such a crucial part of the band during the, during that time period and you know, his, his blues ability and background and his ability to play the harmonica and his ability to go up there and just wrap out his stories, you know, in a blues beat.
was just a wonderful, wonderful thing. School Girl was released on the Grateful Dead's original album, Grateful Dead, in 67, 68 when that album came out. And it was a tune that the Grateful Dead ultimately did not play very often. They certainly would play it sometimes, and certainly a lot more back in the early days. It did actually wind up getting played about 79 times, almost 80 times.
Dan Humiston (01:01:09.212)
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Larry (01:01:14.05)
And it was first played on February 25th, 1966, actually, at the Iver Theater in Los Angeles, last played on June 28th, 95 at the Palace of Auburn Hills, just outside of Detroit. The second to last time they played it was June 25th, 1992 at Soldier Field, a show that I was at. And we were just blown away by it. They came out, they just went into Good Morning Little School Girl. And it was like, wow.
Dan Humiston (01:01:29.611)
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Larry (01:01:43.35)
This is, this is old time classic, uh, grateful dead, uh, that nobody wants to miss. It was played very intermittently in those years as well. Once or twice in 87. Uh, in fact, only one time between 1970 and 1987, once in 88, once in 92. And then in 95, they pulled it out about four or five times. Um, which is a relatively short period because it only had half the year. Um, but again,
Dan Humiston (01:02:05.006)
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Larry (01:02:13.062)
It's a great song. It's out on any one of a number of live releases that are covering the late 60s, early 70s portion of it. But just a wonderful tune to hear them play on. Really a chance for Pig to show his stuff. And what a fun concert as they sit here and just kind of toggle back and forth between Americana Dead, Working Man's Dead, and Schoolgirl is just such a good, strong song to be on the.
on the Primal Dead side of things. And again, at this show in 69, they have the split personality, and they pull this out. So that was great, too. As we wrap up today, because once again, it's hard to believe that an hour has flown by, but it has, things to be thinking about. I don't know how many of you watch Jimmy Kimmel, but the other night he came out, actually a month or two ago now, but he has declared October 20th.
Dan Humiston (01:03:05.436)
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Larry (01:03:10.618)
Uh, to be dog father day and dog father day is because on October 20th, it's Snoop dog's birthday, but significantly and coincidence or not. You tell me 10 20 is the exact midpoint between four 20 and the rest. You know, if you're at four 20, you say, when will we be exactly six months out? You go to October 20th. So Snoop's birthday is on the half year birthday or half year anniversary.
Dan Humiston (01:03:31.711)
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Larry (01:03:38.87)
of 420. And that may be kind of scraping the bottle of the barrel to look for coincidences, but that's OK, because Snoop is full of them. And Jimmy Kimmel, God love him. So from now on, folks, on 1020, don't forget to celebrate your Dogfather's Day right along with your marijuana celebration on 420. And thanks to Jimmy Kimmel for calling that out for us. He's good like that, and we know we can always count on good things from him. Otherwise, quick shout out to my good buddy.
David S down in St. Louis who's celebrating a big birthday today. He was one of my good buddies from growing up, never a big grateful dead fan, so he and I don't share that link, but lots of other links we have in common. So shout out on a birthday to him. And yeah, just great, great stuff going on. We've got some more good shows that we're going to be featuring coming up, have a few guests that we're working on to bring in over the next couple of weeks, and of course, heading into the end of the year.
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Larry (01:04:33.374)
things quiet down a little bit and it's always nice just to have a little more time to listen to wonderful music. And speaking of wonderful music, on the way out the door today, we have a song for you that everybody knows, everybody loves, everybody always wants to hear and is always happy when the Grateful Dead play it. And in fact, it's Uncle John's Band and we're going to get into that in one second. And the significance of Uncle John's Band at this show, once again, is that it's a
The Grateful Dead broke out Uncle John's band for the very first time on December 4, 1969. Another working man's preview, and a song that would go on to become, far and away, one of The Dead's most popular tunes. Played almost 350 times. This was the first performance, last played also on June 28, 1995 at the Palace of Auburn Hills, which was a little disappointing that they never pulled it out one more time in the.
remaining week or two of shows that they had left. But this is a great Uncle John's band, and it's gonna sound a little bit different than what you're used to, but that's what makes it so special and really makes it a lot of fun. Great song to go out on, and that's what we're gonna leave you with today. So I hope everybody has a great week. I hope everybody is safe and healthy, gets to watch some good college football. Cheers for the University of Michigan. Sorry, Ohio State fans, that's just the way it is right now. And for everybody else out there, as always, please enjoy your cannabis safely and responsibly.
And we'll talk to you next week. Thank you, everyone.
Larry (01:06:10.062)
Okay.
Dan Humiston (01:06:10.906)
Hang on, let me do this. Yeah, I don't...